The Third Man Posted Monday at 12:05 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:05 PM Belle Vue is more suspicious because according to some of their fans it needs a monsoon for a meeting to be called off 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted Monday at 12:33 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:33 PM 49 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Reading on FB it seems like it's acceptable for Belle Vue to call a match off for wet weather, but not acceptable for Birmingham to do the same thing, just because they are weakened? I know us Speedway fans can be as suspicious bunch, but why automatically assume it's been called off for team strengths rather than the weather? If Birmingham called off every match when they looked weak, they would never run lol! Good points. It hasn’t stopped raining since yesterday afternoon so the call off is no surprise at Perry Barr. I’m just a couple miles away so no surprise. The NSS call off is more of a shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted Monday at 12:51 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:51 PM 45 minutes ago, The Third Man said: Belle Vue is more suspicious because according to some of their fans it needs a monsoon for a meeting to be called off The NSS can take a considerable amount of rain leading up to the event, riders however cannot race if it is raining for the duration of the event, as was forecast, due to the rain making vision impossible. It’s like driving on the motorway in the rain at 70mph without your wipers on. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Monday at 01:04 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 01:04 PM 12 minutes ago, ouch said: riders however cannot race if it is raining for the duration of the event Like at the SoN last year you mean? 🤔 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted Monday at 01:41 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 01:41 PM 36 minutes ago, IainB said: Like at the SoN last year you mean? 🤔 I only saw the U21 and yes it’s a good example. Plenty of rain leading up to it that would have seen many a meeting cancelled. The young lads that day really got stuck in despite the tricky conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted Monday at 02:04 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 02:04 PM 1 hour ago, The Third Man said: Belle Vue is more suspicious because according to some of their fans it needs a monsoon for a meeting to be called off It’s not stopped raining so far since about 9am this morning. But due to stop soon and if had been a usual 7.30 meeting we would have been fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Monday at 02:42 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 02:42 PM Given the Mickey Mouse state of Brum's team, it was for the best that both meetings were called off... A shame more meetings don't get called off when either of the teams cannot have all their riders available... Oxford have arranged a match knowing Magic is not there .. A ludicrous situation that actually gets condoned by the BSP and fans alike... The sport has the level of following it deserves .. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted Monday at 02:49 PM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 02:49 PM 2 hours ago, The Third Man said: Belle Vue is more suspicious because according to some of their fans it needs a monsoon for a meeting to be called off it stopped raining at 2-30pm nothing more to be said !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Monday at 05:47 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 05:47 PM 3 hours ago, mikebv said: Given the Mickey Mouse state of Brum's team, it was for the best that both meetings were called off... A shame more meetings don't get called off when either of the teams cannot have all their riders available... Oxford have arranged a match knowing Magic is not there .. A ludicrous situation that actually gets condoned by the BSP and fans alike... The sport has the level of following it deserves .. I totally disagree with that, what about people who have planned holidays etc or those swap shifts because they work different hours each week? If it's a rain-off you begrudgingly accept it, but it would be far worse to have a holiday messed up than to watch an understrength team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Monday at 07:14 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 07:14 PM 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: I totally disagree with that, what about people who have planned holidays etc or those swap shifts because they work different hours each week? If it's a rain-off you begrudgingly accept it, but it would be far worse to have a holiday messed up than to watch an understrength team. So many "made up teams" could be avoided given many meetings are actually arranged when promoters actually know their riders are already booked to ride elsewhere on that particular date... Meaning those who arrange these meetings must have no belief in the credibility of their own product... Effectively, "any Speedway will do".... The sport can never move forward over here when such nonsense is allowed to pervade.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted Monday at 07:43 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 07:43 PM 4 hours ago, mikebv said: Given the Mickey Mouse state of Brum's team, it was for the best that both meetings were called off... A shame more meetings don't get called off when either of the teams cannot have all their riders available... Oxford have arranged a match knowing Magic is not there .. A ludicrous situation that actually gets condoned by the BSP and fans alike... The sport has the level of following it deserves .. ‘A shame more meetings don't get called off when either of the teams cannot have all their riders available...’ Have you actually thought about that statement? Throw in the weather situation and we’d be lucky to get the season completed by December, with only Bomber and Santa interested in guest bookings by then. ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Monday at 07:56 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 07:56 PM 8 minutes ago, Teromaafan said: ‘A shame more meetings don't get called off when either of the teams cannot have all their riders available...’ Have you actually thought about that statement? Throw in the weather situation and we’d be lucky to get the season completed by December, with only Bomber and Santa interested in guest bookings by then. ! They need to plan in 12 home meetings each.... And, two more for the play off finalists... In just over FIVE months.... No need I would suggest to arrange meetings when you know riders won't be there, given the amount of blank Mondays and Thursdays available.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted Monday at 08:10 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 08:10 PM 3 minutes ago, mikebv said: They need to plan in 12 home meetings each.... And, two more for the play off finalists... In just over FIVE months.... No need I would suggest to arrange meetings when you know riders won't be there, given the amount of blank Mondays and Thursdays available.... I get the point you are making, but until the sport can address the number of inevitable rain offs ( don’t know what the answer is to that one, well at least one that is financially viable), that proposal is doomed from the outset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted Monday at 08:15 PM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 08:15 PM 7 hours ago, The Third Man said: Belle Vue is more suspicious because according to some of their fans it needs a monsoon for a meeting to be called off now why would we do that ??against Birmingham ? with a weakened team and also a bank holiday crowd ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted Monday at 08:34 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 08:34 PM 7 hours ago, ouch said: The NSS can take a considerable amount of rain leading up to the event, riders however cannot race if it is raining for the duration of the event, as was forecast, due to the rain making vision impossible. It’s like driving on the motorway in the rain at 70mph without your wipers on. Ah yes just like me riding my Motorcycle on the motorway at 70 mph in the rain. Done that more than a few times. With al the technology riders now have , dirt deflectors, tear offs, roller film visors surprised that " visibility" is still an issue to call off a meeting. Track was waterlogged would do me ... unless Belle Vue circuit has suddenly sprouted a roof it gets waterlogged like any other shale surface. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted Tuesday at 06:49 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:49 AM 10 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: Ah yes just like me riding my Motorcycle on the motorway at 70 mph in the rain. Done that more than a few times. With al the technology riders now have , dirt deflectors, tear offs, roller film visors surprised that " visibility" is still an issue to call off a meeting. Track was waterlogged would do me ... unless Belle Vue circuit has suddenly sprouted a roof it gets waterlogged like any other shale surface. You’d think something would have been invented to prevent riders having such poor visibility they have to remove their goggles altogether. Something I’ve seen more than a few times. Is our lack of rain offs due to the construction and drainage at the new track or the wonderfully mild and dry weather in Manchester? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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