Aries Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 58 minutes ago, AceBelle said: Nothing won yet 🤔 Nobody has said it has you insufferable bore! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 10 minutes ago, Aries said: Nobody has said it has you insufferable bore! Oh dear very touchy are we 🤣🤣 the insinuating from Ipswich fans is it's over already it's clear as days big egg on faces come Sept/Oct name calling is very sad/poor laughable though 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 17 minutes ago, AceBelle said: Oh dear very touchy are we 🤣🤣 the insinuating from Ipswich fans is it's over already it's clear as days big egg on faces come Sept/Oct name calling is very sad/poor laughable though 🤣 Making things up and lying is not clever you know... I'm putting you on ignore, and I suggest everyone else does the same... #ignorethetroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArseBellEnd Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, BluPanther said: Making things up and lying is not clever you know... I'm putting you on ignore, and I suggest everyone else does the same... #ignorethetroll Don't ignore me though 🍑🔔🔚 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 I think the biggest issue the sport has is guaranteed money, coupled with a rider shortage it’s perfect for some riders, they get paid whether they score 8 or zero and they won’t be dropped because there is no one to replace them. Look at Tungate (others are equally guilty) riding around looking at his engine all the time, do you think they would be doing that if they wasnt being paid? I think if riders only got travel allowance they would be trying a lot harder to fix a problem and make more effort. They certainly wouldn’t be giving up after a lap and then riding back to the pits. I haven’t been to a meeting for years now, do riders still come out after the meeting to test a few things? Or get other riders to ride their bike to prove its not the bike but the rider? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 3 hours ago, AceBelle said: Nothing won yet 🤔 Where have I said anything about winning things? I was talking about Louis work rate & attract sponsorship 🤦 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, marko said: I haven’t been to a meeting for years now, do riders still come out after the meeting to test a few things? Or get other riders to ride their bike to prove its not the bike but the rider? That's uncanny, I was only thinking this to myself on the way home from Birmingham the other night. It's no use riders disappearing straight away after a match to their next one if they're continually struggling around their home track. I did see riders coming out after the match a couple of times at Leicester last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 No aces fan is stupid. We don’t expect anything from Tate first half of season. 2nd half of season we can judge him. and who knows who our RS will be in July Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 22 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: No aces fan is stupid. We don’t expect anything from Tate first half of season. 2nd half of season we can judge him. and who knows who our RS will be in July I think there's a little too much being expected from these riders that suffered serious season ending injuries last year. Even Doyley and Emil are finding the going a little tough at the start of this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 4 hours ago, BluPanther said: Making things up and lying is not clever you know... I'm putting you on ignore, and I suggest everyone else does the same... #ignorethetroll i'm so upset i wont sleep 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) On 4/25/2025 at 5:30 PM, Hawk127 said: Perhaps the four strongest teams should join the Polish league and then you get weekend racing and good crowds ‘and then I woke up’ All the teams have a limit to build to but not all are either in a position or willing to pay what it costs for some of the top riders. Yes risks exist in signing them such as the Polish team pulling the plug but to use a draft system as has been mentioned elsewhere to solve the imbalance will not work. Those strongest teams obviously have a reputation for paying for the riders services ‘on time’ and not holding back on what is due hence the riders will want to protect the revenue. If you were a rider you would do your homework and go with the club that will pay. After all how many would want to spend six to seven months travelling around Europe simply to race or as in some cases expected because it is mandatory (and when you think of the costs involved plus if you are in the GPs the cost increase horrendously), take a risk on someone defaulting on what you are due It is not just about being a crowd pleaser on the track it is about running a risky business with only once source of income. The U K is no longer the must go to market for the sport and you only have to look at the stadia in Poland on a Sunday for a top league match and ask yourself as a rider where would you rather race, Poland or the UK in drab stadiums and sparse crowds (by comparison to the Polish following) If it is two tier that is because of the failings of the governing body and promoters over many years to do what is right for the sport. Odd Post...I don't think over the years few years you could have had a more two tier league than Poland .Just a couple of teams miles better than the rest .So not sure t's do with failings of government bodies etc..and if it then Poland are just as guilty as anyone else Edited April 30 by orion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 End of the day. Like any sport. The team with the most money will always have the best chance at silverware. it’s all about being lucky to get good owners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 4 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: End of the day. Like any sport. The team with the most money will always have the best chance at silverware. it’s all about being lucky to get good owners Ipswich are favourites this year, and Chris Louis is the owner. Do you think Chris Louis is rich Phil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Aries said: Ipswich are favourites this year, and Chris Louis is the owner. Do you think Chris Louis is rich Phil? Don’t be fooled. Tru plant Pump money in Edited April 30 by PhilTheAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 Same as he does Sheffield. And same as ATPI do for belle Vue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 1 minute ago, PhilTheAce said: Don’t be fooled. Tru plant Pump money in Not as much as you think they do. If they pump so much money in, why did Chris Louis try to sell Ipswich to Buster a few years ago when Tru were the sponsors? Buster done a u turn a few weeks later and Chris Louis kept the club running. There is a poster here who I know you’ve spoken to because he’s told me, who has told you Tru are not great payers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 1 minute ago, Aries said: Not as much as you think they do. If they pump so much money in, why did Chris Louis try to sell Ipswich to Buster a few years ago when Tru were the sponsors? Buster done a u turn a few weeks later and Chris Louis kept the club running. There is a poster here who I know you’ve spoken to because he’s told me, who has told you Tru are not great payers. ok, I will amend. Money and a well run club will always outshine the others. Yeah. They might not pay as much as you think but when you compare it to lynn Leicester, Birmingham then it’s fairly high. Oxford are fair payers and should be up there but they bit of more than they chew with 3 leagues and shroeck building the team. Same will happen next year. Be you and us challenging again. And Sheffield if they come to tapes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 4 hours ago, marko said: I think the biggest issue the sport has is guaranteed money, coupled with a rider shortage it’s perfect for some riders, they get paid whether they score 8 or zero and they won’t be dropped because there is no one to replace them. Look at Tungate (others are equally guilty) riding around looking at his engine all the time, do you think they would be doing that if they wasnt being paid? I think if riders only got travel allowance they would be trying a lot harder to fix a problem and make more effort. They certainly wouldn’t be giving up after a lap and then riding back to the pits. I haven’t been to a meeting for years now, do riders still come out after the meeting to test a few things? Or get other riders to ride their bike to prove its not the bike but the rider? Several riders over here in interviews have said how much "fun" it is to ride in the UK... And go on to explain that the reason being is there is far less/no pressure on them than riding in Poland.. Standing together in the pits with opponents watching the racing, has also been mentioned as something that highlights the lack of pressure and means the riders "enjoy" the evening.. I presume "less pressure" is also down to being pretty much *bomb proof" from losing your job, due to a lack of replacements, with many only getting their job in the first place as there was "no one else" at the time wanting to come over... (And even if you do get canned, invariably you get picked up by another even more desperate team very quickly, so the cycle just rinses and repeats).. Add in the guest system, which takes away any rider/club/fan affiliation, and you have pretty much a league set up for promoters to have an expensive hobby, and riders getting the chance to earn a few quid to justify their financial outlay... With the icing on the cake for riders, getting noticed by Polish promoters if they do well... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 1 minute ago, PhilTheAce said: ok, I will amend. Money and a well run club will always outshine the others. Yeah. They might not pay as much as you think but when you compare it to lynn Leicester, Birmingham then it’s fairly high. Oxford are fair payers and should be up there but they bit of more than they chew with 3 leagues and shroeck building the team. Same will happen next year. Be you and us challenging again. And Sheffield if they come to tapes. Remains to be seen. It’s only really been this year and last that we’ve challenged. The season before that we only just scraped in to the play offs by a minor miracle when Leicester got battered at Peterborough in their final meeting.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 1 minute ago, Aries said: Remains to be seen. It’s only really been this year and last that we’ve challenged. The season before that we only just scraped in to the play offs by a minor miracle when Leicester got battered at Peterborough in their final meeting.. You had to be there or there abouts to that tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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