Ipswich Witches v Belle Vue 10th July

[blue witch]

What everybody has to remember is every track has it's amazing races and rubbish races even the "best track in the world" NSS! 99% of the amazing races come from the best riders! Maybe BV fans didn't watch the 2nd GP at NSS when by the end of it was just a outside line track only with hardly any passing? It's the fact Ipswich was the ones making the passing tonight made it a rubbish track😂 UP THE WITCHES!

[Gavan]

1 hour ago, ouch said:

Sounds like a humdinger and unusual for updates to get it so wrong as from experience they are always bang on. Win or lose I’m always interested in the racing and have used updates when deciding to buy the dvd (re run are excellent btw). Can you give me your take on the action after bend three lap one as it does come across as a truly awful spectacle when reading updates.

Well done Ipswich and especially Danny. I think this was his best meeting ever at Foxhall given the GP opposition, top bloke, please for him. 

For The Aces some might say it’s part of the master plan that went wrong but don’t look back in anger and just roll with it. Aces fans, stop crying your heart out and look forward to Monday when once again we will be supersonic, d’you know what I mean. 

Sorry yes I forgot speedway is all about going flat out on big fast tracks and if you miss the gate just ride out wide and ride around people …. 
That’s the trouble these days is riders only ride one type of track and can’t change … I’ve said many times watch riders like Loram Screen and Ward around Eastbourne and Arena that’s how to ride a speedway bike 

It’s ok having these throttle jockeys at home but you will always come up short away from home 

The home match against us at your place was boring gate and go

See I like close speedway racing and last night at Foxhall was close fast racing and defending lines … overtakes by King and Doyle and Dan T…. And heat 14 with Zach Cook trying inside and out and Dan blocking him cleverly was great racing …. At your place cook would have gone wide and blasted around … yawn

We had Ellis withdraw injured and Foord scoring 0 and Jenkins would have had at least 4 so the margin would have  been even bigger 

The fact is with your current 1-7 you have zero chance of beating a fully fit Ipswich 1-7 over 2 legs because your guys can’t ride our place …..Kurtz when leading left everyone for dust.. Miss the gate rode like a novice or simply not willing to go for it as he has a world championship to go for (which I hope he wins by the way) … chatted to Brady after and was happy to have pictures with my 1 year old granddaughter nice guy to be fair and wished him well

 

[Gavan]

Blodorn can’t ride our place and Zach Cook in his last 9 rides has only beaten one witch …Foord and he fell off 

The reserves aren’t good enough and because Kurtz and Bewley are beatable at ours we will always win comfortably at home …. Belle Vue couldn’t even beat Birmingham away so no chance at Ipswich lol

But I think speedway should change so we only have one track that everyone rides …. We could have the Belle Vue aces … the Belle Vue witches … the Belle Vue spires and so on … every match could be at Belle Vue and none of these other tracks 

[PhilTheAce]

not a shock result, and not really bothered about it because that wont be the team that next goes to ipswich, on paper it does improve us but whether it will on the ipswich track ithen i dont know.

but one things is for sure, kurtz and dan will give that extra % in a play off like always, but so will your riders

 

it was a decent night for ipswich fans and the neutrals but as an aces fan was rubbishe just seeing us get passed

[bellevueace]

10 hours ago, ShanoXtra said:

Looking at the points and watching from the stand. Danny King made some unreal wide passes on bend 3/4 and how he hung on to go outside of the ‘powerhouse’ of BV is quite unbelievable. He really put in a captains performance and deserves a special mention. Brennan rode well I must say, Emil done what needed to be done in heat 13. Doyle rode solid and didn’t wipe any of us out! And Thompson done brilliant to hold off Cook for a crucial 5-1 in heat 14.

Felt sorry for Vinnie, he was trying but it was just another level tonight of racing but it’s very good exposure, and a good atmosphere hopefully opens his eyes to what he can do in the sport when reaching the Prem so it’ll give him the push on he needs. 

Lastly, any of you ‘one league’ fans can take that somewhere else. Never would I give up heat 13 of Doyle, Emil, Kurtz, Bewley. Just seeing them line up gets you pumped for the heat. That’s what I pay my money for.

Long way to go but Up the witches!

I suppose the question at the moment is will the Structure next season allow for the likes of Doyle, Emil, Kurtz, Bewley?

[bellevueace]

14 hours ago, chun said:

It should be shared around otherwise you will get a Belle Vue track specialist racking up British titles.  Foxhall certainly has the capacity to hold major events

During all the years the British Final was held at Coventry i dont recall any Coventry track expert racking up British Titles, no matter where its held and i agree it should be shared around but as Phil says there were no other tracks willing to host it. Problem today there really isnt any other British rider who is going to threaten the likes of Bewley and Lambert, gone are the days of Collins, Morton, Lee Jessup, Betts, Carter, when the meeting was hotly contested.

[bellevueace]

10 hours ago, ShanoXtra said:

Kings emotion was definitely evident after heat 15 but fair play when you’ve just schooled the 2nd and 4th current best riders in the world, and bear in mind them two are the ‘kings’ of wall riding at NSS! Nobody on that track wanted it more than King. Hat off to Thompson as well doing the business and really showing his form is getting back. Great night and great win. Marker has been set for everyone else… come to Foxhall with 14 points and leave with nothing.

Or go to Sheffield with 18 points and leave with nothing 😉

[hasta la vista]

2 hours ago, ouch said:

Thats the reality of the situation. We continuously get fans bigging up their following whilst simultaneously berating The Aces. We had it for years with Poole before they dropped down a league to negate losses. We then ask other clubs if they want the British Final and it’s turned down as their lack of support would make it a loss leader. 

It's nothing to do with other clubs not wanting it.

The sport can't put it away from the 'National' stadium that cost 6m to build.

If that happened someone from the council might finally ask for the first payment towards it.

[SaddlebowRoad]

when is cairns being brought in 

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

23 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

not a shock result, and not really bothered about it because that wont be the team that next goes to ipswich, on paper it does improve us but whether it will on the ipswich track ithen i dont know.

but one things is for sure, kurtz and dan will give that extra % in a play off like always, but so will your riders

 

it was a decent night for ipswich fans and the neutrals but as an aces fan was rubbishe just seeing us get passed

The middle bit is most pertinent imo

Bewley and Kurtz have the talent and equipment to be more effective at Foxhall but why risk it for this one that is all but meaningless

Maybe could've been enough to wrestle the bonus point into BV favour but zero impact on qualification 

Come play off time though that would be all that mattered- doesn't even need to be enough to win the away leg

[bellevueace]

15 minutes ago, hasta la vista said:

It's nothing to do with other clubs not wanting it.

The sport can't put it away from the 'National' stadium that cost 6m to build.

If that happened someone from the council might finally ask for the first payment towards it.

So why was there no take up on the offer to host it? The sport could do with more local councils backing their speedway club instead of seeing clubs close at a rapid pace.

Edited Friday at 08:28 AM by bellevueace

[bellevueace]

No surprise really i said at the start of the season we are not good enough, the engine room of Blodorn and Cook isnt the strongest and we have the weakest reserves, really think Kings Lynn missed a trick this season  but it does show the weakness of the league we were always going to qualify for the play offs with ease, and it wasnt even a comprehensive aggregate victory 8 points. I cant see us getting past the play off semis, talk of bringing in Cairns is a big jump for the lad and it wont transform the team that much at all. 

[SaddlebowRoad]

15 minutes ago, bellevueace said:

No surprise really i said at the start of the season we are not good enough, the engine room of Blodorn and Cook isnt the strongest and we have the weakest reserves, really think Kings Lynn missed a trick this season  but it does show the weakness of the league we were always going to qualify for the play offs with ease, and it wasnt even a comprehensive aggregate victory 8 points. I cant see us getting past the play off semis, talk of bringing in Cairns is a big jump for the lad and it wont transform the team that much at all. 

what trick have lynn missed 

[ShanoXtra]

1 hour ago, AceBelle said:

must have missed the trophy presentation have you got any pics 🤔🤣 of you think this will be Aces team come play/offs think again 🤣 won't be smiling then 🤣

Think you missed the joke, it was how Tatum would commentate the meeting. I didn't realise BV fans would be that sensitive to take this as a dig 😂

[Siggytastic]

32 minutes ago, bellevueace said:

So why was there no take up on the offer to host it? The sport could do with more local councils backing their speedway club instead of seeing clubs close at a rapid pace.

Little chance of councils backing any speedway club as they don't have enough money to do the basics like potholes,SEND etc. 

[ShanoXtra]

On 7/9/2025 at 2:13 PM, AceBelle said:

Being top means nowt or perhaps you are thinking about 1998 the last time  you won the League 🤔🤣

That's fair, probably same that stats mean nothing* until the end of the year too! Belle Vue fans are touchy after last night!

[Arthur54]

1 hour ago, PhilTheAce said:

not a shock result, and not really bothered about it because that wont be the team that next goes to ipswich, on paper it does improve us but whether it will on the ipswich track ithen i dont know.

but one things is for sure, kurtz and dan will give that extra % in a play off like always, but so will your riders

 

it was a decent night for ipswich fans and the neutrals but as an aces fan was rubbishe just seeing us get passed

Could that be a certain Ben Cook coming in, for Blodorn 

[PhilTheAce]

4 minutes ago, Arthur54 said:

Could that be a certain Ben Cook coming in, for Blodorn 

NO, like last year at lynn with tofeek, cook will be banned from signing elsewhere 

[Aries]

1 hour ago, Gavan said:

Sorry yes I forgot speedway is all about going flat out on big fast tracks and if you miss the gate just ride out wide and ride around people …. 
That’s the trouble these days is riders only ride one type of track and can’t change … I’ve said many times watch riders like Loram Screen and Ward around Eastbourne and Arena that’s how to ride a speedway bike 

It’s ok having these throttle jockeys at home but you will always come up short away from home 

The home match against us at your place was boring gate and go

See I like close speedway racing and last night at Foxhall was close fast racing and defending lines … overtakes by King and Doyle and Dan T…. And heat 14 with Zach Cook trying inside and out and Dan blocking him cleverly was great racing …. At your place cook would have gone wide and blasted around … yawn

We had Ellis withdraw injured and Foord scoring 0 and Jenkins would have had at least 4 so the margin would have  been even bigger 

The fact is with your current 1-7 you have zero chance of beating a fully fit Ipswich 1-7 over 2 legs because your guys can’t ride our place …..Kurtz when leading left everyone for dust.. Miss the gate rode like a novice or simply not willing to go for it as he has a world championship to go for (which I hope he wins by the way) … chatted to Brady after and was happy to have pictures with my 1 year old granddaughter nice guy to be fair and wished him well

 

Heat 12 Kurtz made the gate with Lidsey but he didn’t look particularly great there. Thompson put him under huge pressure for a couple of laps and nearly got him at one point before the Aces pair were comfortable by the end and Thompson’s challenge ended. &nbsp
 

Heat 14 was a great race. Cook was quite aggressive and tried to barge Thompson out the way a couple of times and showed good speed,but Dan held firm and refused to give up second place. Gave Cook a stare after the race finished 

[Aries]

1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

The middle bit is most pertinent imo

Bewley and Kurtz have the talent and equipment to be more effective at Foxhall but why risk it for this one that is all but meaningless

Maybe could've been enough to wrestle the bonus point into BV favour but zero impact on qualification 

Come play off time though that would be all that mattered- doesn't even need to be enough to win the away leg

Same for Emil. Would expect far more from him when push comes to shove play off time.