KL Stars vs L Lions - KO Cup Final 1st Leg - Mon 28th July

[Youhave2minutes]

2 hours ago, FishersGate said:

I mean Scotty will score more than Kerr but if I was Rob Lyon I want Klindt in as many heats as possible. Always has ridden Leicester well.

Scotty still a bit rusty being out injured a while. Kerr blows hot and cold. It’s hard to know how he will perform on the night.

Edited 22 hours ago by Youhave2minutes

[StarBoy]

3 hours ago, FishersGate said:

I mean Scotty will score more than Kerr but if I was Rob Lyon I want Klindt in as many heats as possible. Always has ridden Leicester well.

He’ll still get seven rides: 

- 1 as reserve switch for Harrison
- 1 as reserve switch for whichever of the top 5 is struggling (Niels probably)
- 1 as a nomination for heat 15 (if it makes it that far) 

[old bob at herne bay]

As always, meeting decided by the  random "form" of guests. 😞  Thomas Brennan after a stinking display for Ippo against  Kings Lynn, now turns in an outstanding performance against the same opposition ! 

Lewis Kerr ... the less said the better. 

Off to Leicester and I wonder whether the guests will once again decide the meeting ? 

 

 

 

 

[FishersGate]

1 minute ago, old bob at herne bay said:

As always, meeting decided by the  random "form" of guests. 😞  Thomas Brennan after a stinking display for Ippo against  Kings Lynn, now turns in an outstanding performance against the same opposition ! 

Lewis Kerr ... the less said the better. 

Off to Leicester and I wonder whether the guests will once again decide the meeting ? 

 

 

 

 

I can't see Brennan or Nicholls deciding the meeting. I doubt they will get near 10pts each. Max Fricke could go through the card and Kings Lynn needs bomber back to his best..

[FishersGate]

25 minutes ago, StarBoy said:

He’ll still get seven rides: 

- 1 as reserve switch for Harrison
- 1 as reserve switch for whichever of the top 5 is struggling (Niels probably)
- 1 as a nomination for heat 15 (if it makes it that far) 

It's hard for Rob Lyon to decide what he wants to do. Does he give Iversen a more chances or does he keep throwing Klindt at the situation on Thursday..

[tellboy]

2 hours ago, Roger Jacobs said:

It'll be more than the #1 and #6 that will be different. Kvech will be #1, so at least the #5 will also change ...

Good point,think i will just buy the insert on the day.

[Youhave2minutes]

57 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said:

As always, meeting decided by the  random "form" of guests. 😞  Thomas Brennan after a stinking display for Ippo against  Kings Lynn, now turns in an outstanding performance against the same opposition ! 

Lewis Kerr ... the less said the better. 

Off to Leicester and I wonder whether the guests will once again decide the meeting ? 

 

 

 

 

They will I’m sure

[therefused]

I know it’s a cup final and you want to see the best riders but if both teams are missing riders of similar averages maybe there is a discussion for a number 8/junior being promoted for the meeting instead of guests 

[Teromaafan]

1 hour ago, FishersGate said:

It's hard for Rob Lyon to decide what he wants to do. Does he give Iversen a more chances or does he keep throwing Klindt at the situation on Thursday..

Its one thing to have a good reserve who can be an option on the night for riders having an off night, but its a different matter when you're looking at giving them seven rides before a wheel is turned. The latter option (which I think is what Lynn will be looking at) is a massive risk, as good as Klindt can be at Leicester.

[IainB]

8 minutes ago, Teromaafan said:

Its one thing to have a good reserve who can be an option on the night for riders having an off night, but its a different matter when you're looking at giving them seven rides before a wheel is turned. The latter option (which I think is what Lynn will be looking at) is a massive risk, as good as Klindt can be at Leicester.

Klindt's Polish team is riding on Friday night so I suppose he'll be missing the 2nd leg to enable him travel time to get to Poland 🤔

Edited 19 hours ago by IainB

[GeneralMelchett]

I think this is all but over - I hope KL turn up and make a decent go of it, the league match earlier in July was fairly entertaining thanks to Harris and Lawson both of them need to turn up and score well!

[szkocjasid]

4 hours ago, StarBoy said:

He’ll still get seven rides: 

- 1 as reserve switch for Harrison
- 1 as reserve switch for whichever of the top 5 is struggling (Niels probably)
- 1 as a nomination for heat 15 (if it makes it that far) 

Statistically you shouldn't want a reserve getting his 7th ride in heat 15. If Klindt is the best Star & gets 7 rides before heat 15, then the 2nd & 3rd best riders get an extra ride. If Klindt is in heat 15, the 3rd best rider doesn't get an extra ride.

[Daniel Smith]

45 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

Statistically you shouldn't want a reserve getting his 7th ride in heat 15. If Klindt is the best Star & gets 7 rides before heat 15, then the 2nd & 3rd best riders get an extra ride. If Klindt is in heat 15, the 3rd best rider doesn't get an extra ride.

If Klindt is the best rider, why do you want the 3rd best getting an extra ride in heat 15? That's basically giving up the meeting. 

If it is close up to heat 13, we'll need Klindt to have 2 available rides left from 3 heats, one being heat 15.

To go in to heat 15 without your strongest 2 vs Fricke & partner would be absolute madness.

[StarBoy]

6 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Statistically you shouldn't want a reserve getting his 7th ride in heat 15. If Klindt is the best Star & gets 7 rides before heat 15, then the 2nd & 3rd best riders get an extra ride. If Klindt is in heat 15, the 3rd best rider doesn't get an extra ride.

I don’t really understand the logic here. If Klindt for arguments sake is on an 18-point max from 6 rides before heat 15, why wouldn’t you nominate him for it? 

I can see Klindt riding in the following heats:

2 (as programmed)
6 (as programmed)
9 (as programmed)
12 (as programmed)
13 (as reserve switch for Iversen)
14 (as reserve switch for Harrison)
15 (as Rob’s nomination)

[Odds On]

people predicting that some riders will have x amount of rides etc etc....speedway and sport is never ever that predictable, why not just try and enjoy the event as it unfolds!

[therefused]

41 minutes ago, StarBoy said:

I don’t really understand the logic here. If Klindt for arguments sake is on an 18-point max from 6 rides before heat 15, why wouldn’t you nominate him for it? 

I can see Klindt riding in the following heats:

2 (as programmed)
6 (as programmed)
9 (as programmed)
12 (as programmed)
13 (as reserve switch for Iversen)
14 (as reserve switch for Harrison)
15 (as Rob’s nomination)

Imagine he will be used earlier than that instead of having four on the bounce

[StarBoy]

38 minutes ago, therefused said:

Imagine he will be used earlier than that instead of having four on the bounce

He had 4 on the spin Monday night, so can see the same again happening. If he’s going well, he’s the only hope to stop Leicester’s power in the later heats

[Youhave2minutes]

All Lynn riders will need their gating gloves on in my opinion for the win.

[arnieg]

14 minutes ago, StarBoy said:

He had 4 on the spin Monday night, so can see the same again happening. If he’s going well, he’s the only hope to stop Leicester’s power in the later heats

With the rest of the team up and down it is often not until the latter stages that you can judge which of the remaining riders should make way for Klindt's extra rides [obviously one is at the expense of the RS, but the others?]

[szkocjasid]

2 hours ago, StarBoy said:

I don’t really understand the logic here. If Klindt for arguments sake is on an 18-point max from 6 rides before heat 15, why wouldn’t you nominate him for it? 

I can see Klindt riding in the following heats:

2 (as programmed)
6 (as programmed)
9 (as programmed)
12 (as programmed)
13 (as reserve switch for Iversen)
14 (as reserve switch for Harrison)
15 (as Rob’s nomination)

If Klindt is on an 18 point maximum after 6 rides, then of course I would use him in heat 15. My plan however would be to use him earlier, ideally to avoid 3 or 4 on the trot. Potentially use him in heat 4 for Harrison?

This would also leave more options later on, depending who is on form?