high edge Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago Its about time we had a rule to stop teams using rider replacement at two,its not fair to put number ones in heat eight.What do people think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 6 minutes ago, high edge said: Its about time we had a rule to stop teams using rider replacement at two,its not fair to put number ones in heat eight.What do people think You can only do that if your Number one is the next rider above the missing one in the averages, plus there’s nothing better than a lesser rider beating a big rider in a heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 10 hours ago, high edge said: Its about time we had a rule to stop teams using rider replacement at two,its not fair to put number ones in heat eight.What do people think There is nothing to stop the opposing team using their second highest averaged rider at number 2 to counteract this, so nothing wrong with it imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 50 minutes ago, IainB said: There is nothing to stop the opposing team using their second highest averaged rider at number 2 to counteract this, so nothing wrong with it imo Or getting your RS to pull out 'injured' so you can replace them with your GP reserve...... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) A fit for purpose RR would negate guests... Keep it simple... The rider missing can be replaced by the riders above and below twice (if the manager wishes), with a max seven rides each in the meeting... No1 missing? Then any riders can take his place to a max of two of his four rides.. No7 missing? Then a No8 (unattached), comes in and takes two of his rides with the No6 doing the other two... Whatever rider is missing then that is the RR spot... Other riders may get injured in a meeting but that is sport so by all means have an IRR plan to accommodate it... Which includes any rider pulling out missing the next match as a matter of course so as to dissuade any dodgy practice... Ipswich's Tom Brennan making a massive contribution to Leicester winning the KO Cup is nonsense really isn't it? And so many guestfests take place needlessly due to the RR system being so flawed, and are often due to one or other of the teams seeing an opportunity for a few ringers being brought in.. Simply. In 2025 this sport will never be taken seriously by the wider media and public with such a system in place.. Edited 1 hour ago by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 13 hours ago, high edge said: Its about time we had a rule to stop teams using rider replacement at two,its not fair to put number ones in heat eight.What do people think If the number one of a team gets to ride in heat eight that means the missing rider is the second highest scorer for his team. So no real issue there although a bit of a waste to put a number one in such a relatively (for him) easy race. A much better rule would be that a team must use RR before a guest can be used and where a guest is required (i.e. because two riders are missing) then the guest is used as a substitute for the lower average rider. The RR rule should be adjusted to allow any rider whose average is higher than the missing rider to be used once and twice if the RR is lower than the missing rider. However, RR facility should only be allowed for the same rider for 5 consecutive meetings after which the facility is withdrawn in favour of a guest with an average two points below that of the missing rider which will continue until the rider returns or the team sign a replacement rider. The above may need some tweaking, but the essence is to force teams to use RR and reduce/remove the use of guests. Edited 2 hours ago by 1 valve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 35 minutes ago Report Share Posted 35 minutes ago (edited) Why not just use averages given the whole basis of team make up relies on them Eg A 7 point rider is missing so the averages of the riders used to cover the 4 rides must be no more than 28 Edited 35 minutes ago by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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