Grand Final 1st leg Leicester v Ipswich Monday 6th October Live on TV

[cowboy cookie returns?]

8 hours ago, Teromaafan said:

Game over. Congratulations to Ipswich. Their big guns deliver when it matters. I predicted that they would win over two legs but didn’t expect the Lions to go to Foxhall without a lead. You do not win a two legged tie when losing at home. The reserve imbalance says it all. Three points for the home pair! Kemp’s equipment let him down tonight, but yet again we’re carrying someone who simply cannot beat an opponent if they complete four laps. I’ve defended Joe T for some time but my patience has finally ran out with him and it is clear that he cannot cut it at this level, as even when he traps, he’s passed within a lap.

I’m not so sure it’s game over quite yet.

Ipswich need to fully focus over the first 6 heats on Thursday. Leicester do go well at Foxhall. It’s only a 1-5 from being square.

[SPEEDY69]

8 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Interesting Kelvin says best 2 Teams in League tonight.Thought Sheffield finished Top.

Ha, only due to the nothing meeting after the cut off🤣

[SPEEDY69]

8 hours ago, Teromaafan said:

You shouldn’t dismiss riders who are still teenagers (how do you encourage youth?) but there has to come a point when you say a rider has had enough racing experience to conclude that further improvement is unlikely.

Agree is irrelevant, it's talent and nerve that counts. I've seen enough riders to spot who's got it and who hasn't, nothing dismissive about that. 

[FishersGate]

Heat 15 has thrown a spanner in the works but a small spanner at best. This is the Ipswich side we haven't really seen all season, strong reserves and two world class riders setting the standards. I really think Ipswich just need a couple of early 4 2s and it's done. I wouldn't have any complaints either, they were everyone's favourites for the title before a bike had even turned. Proud as a lions fan regardless of the outcome, didn't expect the KO cup or a play off final so I'm still happy with our season overall even if we get smashed at Foxhall, and heck I've got nothing against Ipswich. Let's hope the second leg gets tasty!!

[GeneralMelchett]

8 hours ago, Aries said:

Thought there was some decent racing at times 🤷🏼‍♂️ ok wasn’t a thriller, but there was some good races in there. Wasn’t as good as the Sheffield meeting in the semi, but thought it was better than both semi’s at Foxhall and the NSS.

Fingers crossed Adam isn’t too beat up. Been in the wars a bit.

Two or three races involving TomB and Emil were top entertainment! 

[Aries]

22 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

I’m not so sure it’s game over quite yet.

Ipswich need to fully focus over the first 6 heats on Thursday. Leicester do go well at Foxhall. It’s only a 1-5 from being square.

It SHOULD be, but after the way things went against us the last couple of years, don’t think any of us are counting our chickens!

Ellis is an issue. Can be covered ok away, not so much at home especially when Dan has admitted he hasn’t enjoyed riding at Foxhall recently and has been struggling here. That could be a ray of hope for Leicester.

They did win by four earlier in the season, but with the caveat of us missing Doyle and Thompson with R/R and Hume accumulating seven points for the two of them.

A fast start will calm any nerves.

 

[Petecc]

Leicester choked again.

[GeneralMelchett]

8 minutes ago, Aries said:

It SHOULD be, but after the way things went against us the last couple of years, don’t think any of us are counting our chickens!

Ellis is an issue. Can be covered ok away, not so much at home especially when Dan has admitted he hasn’t enjoyed riding at Foxhall recently and has been struggling here. That could be a ray of hope for Leicester.

They did win by four earlier in the season, but with the caveat of us missing Doyle and Thompson with R/R and Hume accumulating seven points for the two of them.

A fast start will calm any nerves.

 

It’s advantage Witches for sure but the can be no complacency! A 1-5 in heat 1 and will fire op Leicester and make the Witches nervous! 

[Steve Irving]

43 minutes ago, FishersGate said:

Heat 15 has thrown a spanner in the works but a small spanner at best. This is the Ipswich side we haven't really seen all season, strong reserves and two world class riders setting the standards. I really think Ipswich just need a couple of early 4 2s and it's done. I wouldn't have any complaints either, they were everyone's favourites for the title before a bike had even turned. Proud as a lions fan regardless of the outcome, didn't expect the KO cup or a play off final so I'm still happy with our season overall even if we get smashed at Foxhall, and heck I've got nothing against Ipswich. Let's hope the second leg gets tasty!!

Really? They won by 8 at your place earlier on in the season! In fact they were beating just about everybody until they lost Doyle and Thompson in the space of a few days which punctured the Ipswich tyres. Neither Doyle nor Thompson have actually been the same since those injuries either. Thompson was going like a train and riding like a seasoned heat leader until he broke his wrist. Hasn’t hit those heights since and neither has Doyle. That could have provided an opportunity for others, but the strength of the side means they still looks like comfortably coming out on top. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Steve Irving

[Steve Irving]

5 minutes ago, Petecc said:

Leicester choked again.

Or simply beaten by a better side? Ipswich have a stronger team than Leicester, it’s pretty simple really.

[SPEEDY69]

That was a pretty good meeting, the Leicester track provides good opportunity for racing and of course the tension was visible. I expected Brennan in heat 15. 

[Roger Jacobs]

11 hours ago, IainB said:

Laughing at his kamikaze riding rather than any potential injury... but then I think you know that deep down 👍🏻

Friday afternoon here in Aus, and we've just watched the coverage.

I would say that Ellis was caught out by the patchy track in his first ride ... hardly kamikaze.  Is he expected to hold back in a Grand Final?  No doubt if he had settled for the inside line, there'd be criticism that he didn't try the outside 🙄

To others calling for a rerun: the ref didn't put the lights on until the leader had started the third lap, and the Regs allow a race to be awarded from that point ...

[FishersGate]

38 minutes ago, Steve Irving said:

Really? They won by 8 at your place earlier on in the season! In fact they were beating just about everybody until they lost Doyle and Thompson in the space of a few days which punctured the Ipswich tyres. Neither Doyle nor Thompson have actually been the same since those injuries either. Thompson was going like a train and riding like a seasoned heat leader until he broke his wrist. Hasn’t hit those heights since and neither has Doyle. That could have provided an opportunity for others, but the strength of the side means they still looks like comfortably coming out on top. 

They didn't finish top of the league and everybody expected them to do that. They also got knocked out of the cup failed to to do that either. They should have walked the league imo. Every club has injuries!

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[FishersGate]

50 minutes ago, Petecc said:

Leicester choked again.

I don't think we choked this time, more like Ipswich have the strongest team in the league!

[blue witch]

3 decisions against us and 4 points lead. First part done but now the boys need to finish off the job! Hopefully a guest that's more than capable to help us to victory.

[1 valve]

11 hours ago, Aries said:

That’s completely irrelevant. I agree it can sometimes be unfair that a rider not looking like competing gets another chance, but that’s ALWAYS happened hasn’t it? Be honest Mike, have you ever seen a race awarded before two laps have been completed before? I certainly haven’t. 

The leading riders were on lap three when the race was stopped with a considerable gap between the two Leicester riders and the remaining Ipswich rider.
In awarding the race the referee concluded that the third placed rider had little or no chance of catching & passing the either of the Lions riders ahead of him. 
In making such decisions the referee does not take consider hypothetical scenarios such as the remaining riders could fall or suffer engine failure.  
It was the correct decision and a shame the commentators fail to understand that it’s not when a rider falls but the position of the leading rider that determines the state of the race. 
 

[gjcone44]

Went down last night lot bigger crowd than the final last year. problem getting a good viewing point when that busy, eventually got up against fence middle 3/4 bend, no speaker working there. got a cracking view of Adams move up the inside was, but he was going a bit too fast to make that pass stick, even if he stayed on. I didn't feel the atmosphere it should of had but, i suppose because i was a neutral. 

[40-38]

2 minutes ago, gjcone44 said:

Went down last night lot bigger crowd than the final last year. problem getting a good viewing point when that busy, eventually got up against fence middle 3/4 bend, no speaker working there. got a cracking view of Adams move up the inside was, but he was going a bit too fast to make that pass stick, even if he stayed on. I didn't feel the atmosphere it should of had but, i suppose because i was a neutral. 

Atmosphere went a bit flat because of the pasting we were getting.

[B.V 72]

11 hours ago, mikebv said:

Looking at the crowd, I would think there are a fair few dominoes and crib leagues short of a few players this evening in Leicester...

Dont knock us when our generation is gone so is speedway in this country.

[IainB]

33 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said:

I would say that Ellis was caught out by the patchy track in his first ride ... hardly kamikaze.  Is he expected to hold back in a Grand Final?  No doubt if he had settled for the inside line, there'd be criticism that he didn't try the outside 🙄

You just don't make that dive bomb move at Leicester it never ever works on turn 3 (it can do on turn 1), it's not Sheffield, if you watch the coverage you'll see that every other rider backed off from making that same move during the meeting because it just does not work, everybody else knew this and just because it's a pay off final does not mean that all of a sudden it is going to work.