mikebv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 9 minutes ago, TTT said: British Speedway, The only sport in the UK where.... Lower League Clubs try and dictate the future of the Big League Clubs. Lower League Clubs try and take Money out of Riders Pockets by putting them out of a job at PREM level. Lower League Clubs try and takeaway from the Fans by replacing Top Quality On Track Battles like Brady Kurtz v Jason Doyle or Dan Bewley v Max Fricke and replacing them with Paul Starke v Simon Lambert or Jack Smith v Alfie Bowtell. "Big League Clubs"....??? There in those three words is the issue.... There simply isn't a "Big League"... Hardly anyone cares.... If every track rode one home meeting in the same week last year in "The Big League", there would barely be 10,000 there collectively watching all the meetings... It is finished... Not enough fans will pay circa £25 a pop to watch it... Edited 3 hours ago by mikebv 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Lack of forward thinking has been the catalyst for this shambles.Late in the day to try and solve it considering we’re being told they have been discussing the way forward for months behind the scenes.Helmet colour and gardening at starting gate were probably top of the list by the sounds of it.🤔 Sounds like they must seriously have thought that TNT would renew, the writing was on the wall as soon as Eurosport was amalgamated within TNT, they'd already elected to not renew previously. At that point plans for the 2026 should have been made, at least a contingency plan to run with no TV contract. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 47 minutes ago, mikebv said: "Big League Clubs"....??? There in those three words is the issue.... There simply isn't a "Big League"... Hardly anyone cares.... If every track rode one home meeting in the same week last year in "The Big League", there would barely be 10,000 there collectively watching all the meetings... It is finished... Not enough fans will pay circa £25 a pop to watch it... Of course they care, Just some promoters don't make an effort to promote their business. They can learn a thing or two from how Chris Louis runs Ipswich. Edited 3 hours ago by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, mikebv said: I agree... Using riders, and paying them circa six figures, who can earn £400/500k in Poland, is nothing more than an ego trip for promoters in my opinion... And adds pretty much zero to the attendances at tracks, zero to wider media coverage, and zero to public awareness... The bottom line is ... Millions have been spent to regress .. When will the coffee be smelt? Don’t be silly they cannot afford coffee😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, TTT said: Of course they care, Just some promoters don't make an effort to promote their business. They can learn a thing or two from how Chris Louis runs Ipswich. No, they don't care... Ipswich has "decent crowds" (v the rest)... 1500 or so, week after week for a POQ, isn't anything at all to shout about though in the bigger picture of things... My lad plays North West Counties Football (semi pro amateurs), often in front of bigger crowds... And none of then get paid more than £200 per game... That is the size of UK Speedway... It is tiny in the grand scheme of things... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Hawk127 said: Don’t be silly they cannot afford coffee😄 Aldi Gold Blend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 16 minutes ago, TTT said: Of course they care, Just some promoters don't make an effort to promote their business. They can learn a thing or two from how Chris Louis runs Ipswich. Maybe they could but without the others Chris Louis is as unsuccessful as the rest, we need to flourish as a sport not one or two, I was in Manchester at the weekend for a gig and in the town center there is a sports memorabilia shop and they had everything from football to F1, bet you can’t guess what they didn't have ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, mikebv said: Aldi Gold Blend... Far too expensive. They need to start nicking sachets from hotel rooms together with the sugars, tea bags and the occasional hot chocolate for those special and memorable decision days. They could also take the biscuits.😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 20 minutes ago, TTT said: Of course they care, Just some promoters don't make an effort to promote their business. They can learn a thing or two from how Chris Louis runs Ipswich. Delusion, or what?! I assume you mean the promoters of Aces, Stars, Lions and Tigers?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Maybe they could but without the others Chris Louis is as unsuccessful as the rest, we need to flourish as a sport not one or two, I was in Manchester at the weekend for a gig and in the town center there is a sports memorabilia shop and they had everything from football to F1, bet you can’t guess what they didn't have ? Speedway? And Kabaddi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Maybe they could but without the others Chris Louis is as unsuccessful as the rest, we need to flourish as a sport not one or two, I was in Manchester at the weekend for a gig and in the town center there is a sports memorabilia shop and they had everything from football to F1, bet you can’t guess what they didn't have ? Banger racing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitch Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, Kieran22222 said: Where have the rumours the peterborough will be back in 2027 come from. Have they even got a track? Yes they have a track at the Peterborough East of England showground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Hawk127 said: Banger racing? Does Manchester have banger racing anymore ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Pitch said: Yes they have a track at the Peterborough East of England showground. They have a stand that’s all, the track has been dug up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Does Manchester have banger racing anymore ? Don’t know but I am sure they have a few old farts running around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, mikebv said: Speedway? And Kabaddi? Is that the latest version of the Good the bad and the Ugly starring David Lammy ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitch Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: They have a stand that’s all, the track has been dug up Only the top layer of shale was removed, "Forever Panthers Ltd" consortium have always said the track can be resurrected Edited 2 hours ago by Pitch Correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Hawk127 said: Is that the latest version of the Good the bad and the Ugly starring David Lammy ? He would make a perfect advisor for the BSPL..... In fact. . Has he been doing it for the last two decades?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Essentially as of course with the haves and have nots. British Speedway simply doesn't have enough people to participate in it, and whilst the powers that be have turned a blind eye. The chickens have now come home to roost. As I see it the only way ahead IS 1 league and blood the youngsters (wherever they are from). Otherwise those that propose that a top league is a must may not have anything to support next season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 12 minutes ago, mikebv said: No, they don't care... Ipswich has "decent crowds" (v the rest)... 1500 or so, week after week for a POQ, isn't anything at all to shout about though in the bigger picture of things... My lad plays North West Counties Football (semi pro amateurs), often in front of bigger crowds... And none of then get paid more than £200 per game... That is the size of UK Speedway... It is tiny in the grand scheme of things... Exactly what I mean about learning a thing or two from Chris Louis. The man does everything right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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