Belle Vue Aces 2026

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2 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

We've signed him as a no4, not a heat leader or back up to them. Totally different circumstances........ in a weakened league to 

I know you have which goes to show how big the sacrifice is to keep Kurtz and Bewley.

When I say backup, I'm referring to the fact that Kurtz and Bewley can't mathematically win a meeting by themselves even if they go unbeaten because 46 Points is the minimum target.

[PotteringAround]

29 minutes ago, TTT said:

I was worried about what Belle Vue could do with a 37.00 Limit because alot of riders who go well around the NSS are on very nice GSA's like some of the names you've mentioned along with others like Wright and Zagar.

Seems a strange take to suggest signing a 36-year-old Kildemand is a poor signing, but a 37-year-old Wright, or a 42-year-old Zagar would be good.

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Not trolling here but can you see what I mean about Kildemand's highly inflated GSA.

 

At number 2			Points	Total
Mon Mar 24th 2025	King's Lynn v Oxford (PRKO)		2, 0, 2, 2	6
Thu May 15th 2025	Oxford v Belle Vue (PRa)		2, 1', 3, 2, 1^, 0	9	+1
Mon Jun 2nd 2025	King's Lynn v Ipswich (PRKO)		1, 0, 2', 0	3	+1	(Guest)
Average (not inc. bp)				5.14
Average (inc. bp)				5.71
At number 4			Points	Total
Thu Mar 27th 2025	Oxford v King's Lynn (PRKO)		X	0
Mon Apr 21st 2025	Oxford v Leicester (PRa)		3, R, 1', 0	4	+1
Thu Apr 24th 2025	Sheffield v Oxford (PRa)		0, 1', 0, 1	2	+1
Mon Apr 28th 2025	King's Lynn v Oxford (PRa)		R, 1, 0, 2	3
Mon May 5th 2025	Oxford v Birmingham (PRa)		2', 0, 0, F	2	+1
Mon May 5th 2025	Birmingham v Oxford (PRa)		2, 2, 2, 1, 0	7
Average (not inc. bp)				3.27
Average (inc. bp)				3.82

 

 

[PotteringAround]

Seems to have only ridden the NSS twice.    7 years apart, and double figures each time

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1 minute ago, PotteringAround said:

Seems a strange take to suggest signing a 36-year-old Kildemand is a poor signing, but a 37-year-old Wright, or a 42-year-old Zagar would be good.

Both of them are on GSA's they attained riding as Heat Leaders.

Wright even had to ride @ No.1 so I think his GSA holds a lot of value tbh, Surprised he's not been snapped up yet.

[gjcone44]

still recon we will make the playoffs, 😆

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1 minute ago, PotteringAround said:

Seems to have only ridden the NSS twice.    7 years apart, and double figures each time

Loads of easy points against Zischke, Mulford and his own team mates to be fair.

Struggled @ No.4 for Oxford hence why he dropped to reserve which is the point I'm trying to make.

 

[foreverblue]

8 minutes ago, PotteringAround said:

Seems to have only ridden the NSS twice.    7 years apart, and double figures each time

You cannot take in to account what he achieved in 2018

[PotteringAround]

2 minutes ago, TTT said:

Both of them are on GSA's they attained riding as Heat Leaders.

Wright even had to ride @ No.1 so I think his GSA holds a lot of value tbh, Surprised he's not been snapped up yet.

And Emil Sayfutdinov would be a good signing.   But like Zagar and Wright, his average doesn't fit the BV second-string berth either.

BV needed a 5-point second-string, to complete  the team, and seem to have found one of good value.   As I say, if Kildemand's age of 36 makes him a bad signing, then we must write off Sayfutdinov, Wright and Zagar too, along with Chris Harris, Chris Holder and Jason Doyle.

[PotteringAround]

4 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

You cannot take in to account what he achieved in 2018

The NSS was there in 2018.   I merely searched to find every appearance at the NSS. 

I didn't take into account appearances at the dog track, or anywhere else.

[PhilTheAce]

At least he will be paid at belle vue so should be a happier rider and raring to go. His average will improve 

[foreverblue]

2 minutes ago, PotteringAround said:

The NSS was there in 2018.   I merely searched to find every appearance at the NSS. 

I didn't take into account appearances at the dog track, or anywhere else.

I did not say it wasn't I mean't he is not the same rider as he was then.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

2 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said:

I wish Lemo would hurry up and announce Zach Cook! His visa needs sorting...!😉

Surely your not admitting that the Championship is totally reliant on the Premiership and that without it you don't get the riders you want/need..... 

Edited 7 hours ago by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv

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1 hour ago, TTT said:

No I don't, It's a public forum and I'm entitled to post an opinion.

1 Year ago fans were on here, X, Facebook etc. all taking the pish out of Oxford for signing Kildemand so I don't buy into the fact that Belle Vue fans are happy to sign the same Ageing Injury Prone Rider on a highly inflated GSA due to him taking 5-7 Rides a night at reserve when they were expecting a Young and Exciting Talent like Hellstrom-Bangs on a 5.00 Assessed GSA.

I'm delighted that you've kept Kurtz and Bewley because it means that Belle Vue pose no threat of winning anything again as they've got no backup.

Nonsense post this, you can have your opinion, but you stated Aces fans wouldn't have wanted both the top 2 back, which is wrong.  The Aces have won 2 titles this decade with big top 2, it will always win you more over the years.  Not many Aces fans would swap them.

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23 minutes ago, PotteringAround said:

And Emil Sayfutdinov would be a good signing.   But like Zagar and Wright, his average doesn't fit the BV second-string berth either.

BV needed a 5-point second-string, to complete  the team, and seem to have found one of good value.   As I say, if Kildemand's age of 36 makes him a bad signing, then we must write off Sayfutdinov, Wright and Zagar too, along with Chris Harris, Chris Holder and Jason Doyle.

Kildemand false GSA from riding against reserves, Not a No.4 as shown by gbspeedway.com stats.

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4 minutes ago, SUPERACE said:

Nonsense post this, you can have your opinion, but you stated Aces fans wouldn't have wanted both the top 2 back, which is wrong.  The Aces have won 2 titles this decade with big top 2, it will always win you more over the years.  Not many Aces fans would swap them.

I didn't say that at all.

[Col]

2 hours ago, Gavan said:

Replacing Lidsey with Kildemand shows that the team is much weaker this season 

Absolute guaranteed entertainment but nothing to address the fact the team can’t ride away from home and ultimately that will be their downfall 

But every team is weaker due to this 37.00 points limit, which I find bizarre consider there are two less teams...

1 hour ago, TTT said:

1 Year ago fans were on here, X, Facebook etc. all taking the pish out of Oxford for signing Kildemand so I don't buy into the fact that Belle Vue fans are happy to sign the same Ageing Injury Prone Rider on a highly inflated GSA due to him taking 5-7 Rides a night at reserve when they were expecting a Young and Exciting Talent like Hellstrom-Bangs on a 5.00 Assessed GSA.

What makes you think Hellstrom-Bangs is even interested in riding over here, he never has before.

I find this quite odd, an Ipswich fan on this forum (not sure who) has said that Kurtz has been the best visitor to Foxhall since lockdown and Ipswich fans seemed happy enough when they thought Bewley was going to be their #1.

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4 minutes ago, Col said:

But every team is weaker due to this 37.00 points limit, which I find bizarre consider there are two less teams...

What makes you think Hellstrom-Bangs is even interested in riding over here, he never has before.

I find this quite odd, an Ipswich fan on this forum (not sure who) has said that Kurtz has been the best visitor to Foxhall since lockdown and Ipswich fans seemed happy enough when they thought Bewley was going to be their #1.

He said in the Polish press that he wants too.

[Col]

45 minutes ago, TTT said:

Loads of easy points against Zischke, Mulford and his own team mates to be fair.

Heat 05: Z Cook, Kildemand, Lidsey, Janowski 4-2 (17-13) 60.89
Heat 12: Kildemand, Lidsey, Mulford, Riss (Fell, Excluded) 3-3 (44-28) Awarded

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Just now, Col said:

Heat 05: Z Cook, Kildemand, Lidsey, Janowski 4-2 (17-13) 60.89
Heat 12: Kildemand, Lidsey, Mulford, Riss (Fell, Excluded) 3-3 (44-28) Awarded

Lidsey had a mare that night in all fairness.

End of the day, Kildemand's GSA for Oxford riding @ No.4 from 6 Meetings was 3.56 (Home) and 4.00 (Away) Including Bonus Points.