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2 hours ago, IainB said:

I'm pretty sure Monday's and Thursday's were introduced to allow riders to double up and not to attract the star riders... as proven by their absences throughout the season.

You only have to go into a boozer in town on a Monday night to see how dead the place is.

Wrong.

Monday & Thursday were dictated by the BSPA to placate Poland and the riders who wished to race there and the UK.

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2 hours ago, Paul Johnson said:

The more kids involved the better the crowd will be, give them something to want to go for....and it makes me laugh when i read"but its a school day tomorrow" but will quite happily take them to football which can finish past 10pm

Spot on. “Tomorrow’s a school day” by and large an excuse. 

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1 hour ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

Wrong.

Monday & Thursday were dictated by the BSPA to placate Poland and the riders who wished to race there and the UK.

Wrong.

https://www.acu.org.uk/news/2017/11/british-speedway-announce-major-moves/

Although the switch to Thursday may have been done to placate Denmark

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3 minutes ago, IainB said:

Wrong.

https://www.acu.org.uk/news/2017/11/british-speedway-announce-major-moves/

Although the switch to Thursday may have been done to placate Denmark

and that’s WRONG as they changed to Monday and THURSDAY as Poland took up a tv contract to show live matches, but what’s in another inaccurate speedway press release.😊

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2 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

and that’s WRONG as they changed to Monday and THURSDAY as Poland took up a tv contract to show live matches, but what’s in another inaccurate speedway press release.😊

Wasn't the Thursday changed so Sheffield came up, and Swindon were also pretty much Thursday only?

And Poole dropped out as Wednesdays were no longer part of the UK's 2 priority days? Given Denmark had that day...

(Even though the UK initially went with 3 days, not 2 :D)..

One thing is for sure...

Those nights perfectly fitted around the 2nd tier who ran Tue, Wed, Fri, Sat and Sunday..

(And did one (not Sheffield), race on a Thursday and have to change their night? 

However it certainly perfectly fitted many of the riders need for two incomes...

With each league helping to subsidise the other as these riders had two salaries, and, as they couldn't be in two places at once, it was a perfect scenario to allow clubs to share them...

Everyone was happy....:rolleyes:;)

 

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Wasn't it the FIM that set out race nights after BSPA, DMU & SVEMO complained about Poland threatening to run 5 days & banning riders from competing in other leagues?? 

There isn't officially 'Fixed' days as such, just 'Priority' days to individual associations.

Monday - UK

Tuesday - Sweden 

Wednesday - Denmark 

Thursday - UK / Sweden

Friday - SGP / Poland

Saturday - SGP / Poland 

Sunday - Poland

Every league can run 7 days if they wanted to, they'd just not be allowed to demand rider availability on an 'off' night.

It's why some of the conversations on here have been funny when some say "have one big league and ride any day we want." Rider availability would be disastrous with R/R & guests all over the place. It's probably the biggest reason why British Speedway are desperate to save the top tier league. 

Going to 1 league would finish the sport in this country forever, they'd be no coming back from an absolute 💩 storm that would create for our clubs. 

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3 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

Wasn't it the FIM that set out race nights after BSPA, DMU & SVEMO complained about Poland threatening to run 5 days & banning riders from competing in other leagues?? 

There isn't officially 'Fixed' days as such, just 'Priority' days to individual associations.

Monday - UK

Tuesday - Sweden 

Wednesday - Denmark 

Thursday - UK / Sweden

Friday - SGP / Poland

Saturday - SGP / Poland 

Sunday - Poland

Every league can run 7 days if they wanted to, they'd just not be allowed to demand rider availability on an 'off' night.

It's why some of the conversations on here have been funny when some say "have one big league and ride any day we want." Rider availability would be disastrous with R/R & guests all over the place. It's probably the biggest reason why British Speedway are desperate to save the top tier league. 

Going to 1 league would finish the sport in this country forever, they'd be no coming back from an absolute 💩 storm that would create for our clubs. 

But we have "RR and guests all over the place" now...

So, no real difference other than running on nights that could attract a better crowd level...

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2 hours ago, mikebv said:

But we have "RR and guests all over the place" now...

So, no real difference other than running on nights that could attract a better crowd level...

But lose all your SGP stars in doing so, does that really lead to bigger crowds? I think people are a bit naive to think going to win league and running speedway of a different day would bring back bigger crowds. You wrote the other day you didn’t see any of the listed promotional pushes that Belle Vue have tried so why would one league and Belle Vue riding on a different day attract more people? Promotion is the problem or maybe just the fact people aren’t interested in speedway. People need to wake up to the situation I think

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