Sir Philip joins Speedway Futures

[PersonalResponsibility]

7 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Like who ?  Only rob godfrey is from the bspl either as a director or shareholder, Chris Louis has quit and Phil morris isn’t in the bspl, the others are rob painter, his Mrs and a few unknowns. And ex motox rider Jamie Dobb,,it says the bspl as a company are shareholders but not individuals 

Yeah, I misremembered that one. As you say though, BSPL as an entity are majority shareholders.

[secsy1]

On 12/9/2025 at 3:49 PM, Youhave2minutes said:

Sir Philip Davies joins speedway futures to bring in a new breath of fresh air to the dying sport. He wants tv coverage to continue and is looking to a new growth plan. Things could be on the up.

To help ensure more TV coverage and new growth plan, cameras will be at Dover to welcome the rubber dinghy's ensuring the TV coverage continues and investment opportunities brought in with the Illegal immigrants pledging their income to speedway futures.

This is the farce British Speedway finds itself in!  

[Youhave2minutes]

Reading on website speedway newsnow speedway futures is gonna drag the sport out of the doldrums. It needs a good kick of the whiskers as we all are aware.

[mikebv]

21 hours ago, Sir Sidney said:

Why would they hand over any money?

Redknapp was brought in because of his (alleged) contact list.

I don't know the other guy but it seems he has some relevant credentials.

I suspect both are on some kind of % deal for what they bring in either directly or indirectly. 

All it needs is for BSPL to be a bit more transparent to stop all the speculation - of course, we know they won't be, and so the speculation will continue 

Betting has been mentioned several times, as a possible revenue stream, however..

Having guests who can impact league positions, and scores on the night, to the detriment, or enhancement, of their own contracted clubs, could look a tad suspicious to a wider audience..

As could having managers running two teams. Eg A rider from one of your teams is racing against you one night, and does badly, and then goes through the card the next night riding for you.. 

Again, the optics maybe wouldn't look too good..

And then you can add in riders switching off to let a team mate passed, so they get paid the same, but keep their average lower, and you have a fair few "issues" any betting company could feel "uncomfortable" getting involved with..

Particularly when they are doing individual points scored, head to heads, final league positions, etc..

It would, no doubt, be totally all genuine and above board from the riders and team managers perspective...

But. Would a betting company want to get involved with such situations being such an integral part of the operating model? 

 

[IainB]

9 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Betting has been mentioned several times, as a possible revenue stream, however..

Having guests who can impact league positions, and scores on the night, to the detriment, or enhancement, of their own contracted clubs, could look a tad suspicious to a wider audience..

As could having managers running two teams. Eg A rider from one of your teams is racing against you one night, and does badly, and then goes through the card the next night riding for you.. 

Again, the optics maybe wouldn't look too good..

And then you can add in riders switching off to let a team mate passed, so they get paid the same, but keep their average lower, and you have a fair few "issues" any betting company could feel "uncomfortable" getting involved with..

Particularly when they are doing individual points scored, head to heads, final league positions, etc..

It would, no doubt, be totally all genuine and above board from the riders and team managers perspective...

But. Would a betting company want to get involved with such situations being such an integral part of the operating model? 

 

... or the sports CEO stepping in and re-arranging play off fixtures for commercial (betting) reasons 😂

[frigbo]

11 hours ago, Grand Central said:

Odious man.
At least they haven't got his vile spouse involved.

Given his previous, I don't expect Mario Hausl or Antonio Lindback to be on his fave rider list.

[SpeedwaySlider72]

16 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Betting has been mentioned several times, as a possible revenue stream, however..

Having guests who can impact league positions, and scores on the night, to the detriment, or enhancement, of their own contracted clubs, could look a tad suspicious to a wider audience..

As could having managers running two teams. Eg A rider from one of your teams is racing against you one night, and does badly, and then goes through the card the next night riding for you.. 

Again, the optics maybe wouldn't look too good..

And then you can add in riders switching off to let a team mate passed, so they get paid the same, but keep their average lower, and you have a fair few "issues" any betting company could feel "uncomfortable" getting involved with..

Particularly when they are doing individual points scored, head to heads, final league positions, etc..

It would, no doubt, be totally all genuine and above board from the riders and team managers perspective...

But. Would a betting company want to get involved with such situations being such an integral part of the operating model? 

 

It looks like you are contriving issues in speedway and ignoring what goes on in the world of sport generally.

The guest system is not ideal but can't be seen as an issue otherwise betting companies wouldn't offer odds on British league speedway which they have done for years.

The British and Irish Lions select a national rugby manager to coach them thus the manager effectively coaches two teams - again a non-issue as it is in speedway as the teams don't face each other across leagues/competitions.

A rider easing off to let their teammate through - is that any different from the main striker in football passing up taking a penalty to his teammate so his teammate can get a hat trick? Or a rugby player making an unnecessary extra pass for his teammate to touch it down? Or team tactics in formula one where a driver may be asked to make way for their teammate?

All are non-issues to betting companies.

Edited 5 hours ago by SpeedwaySlider72

[Sir Sidney]

29 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Betting has been mentioned several times, as a possible revenue stream, however..

Having guests who can impact league positions, and scores on the night, to the detriment, or enhancement, of their own contracted clubs, could look a tad suspicious to a wider audience..

As could having managers running two teams. Eg A rider from one of your teams is racing against you one night, and does badly, and then goes through the card the next night riding for you.. 

Again, the optics maybe wouldn't look too good..

And then you can add in riders switching off to let a team mate passed, so they get paid the same, but keep their average lower, and you have a fair few "issues" any betting company could feel "uncomfortable" getting involved with..

Particularly when they are doing individual points scored, head to heads, final league positions, etc..

It would, no doubt, be totally all genuine and above board from the riders and team managers perspective...

But. Would a betting company want to get involved with such situations being such an integral part of the operating model? 

 

Personally I don't think betting is viable specifically for all the reasons you mention - far too open to manipulation and perceived corruption ( even if no corruption exists) .

Maybe Sir Philip has been recruited for his marketing knowledge - which as we know is sadly lacking in British Speedway.

Of course, Speedway Futures Ltd could just be transparent and tell us, but I'm sure none of us expects that 

[Bear_Bottom]

[Youhave2minutes]

2 minutes ago, Bear_Bottom said:

I’ve got more spots on my face😂

[Littleze]

3 hours ago, mikebv said:

Betting has been mentioned several times, as a possible revenue stream, however..

Having guests who can impact league positions, and scores on the night, to the detriment, or enhancement, of their own contracted clubs, could look a tad suspicious to a wider audience..

As could having managers running two teams. Eg A rider from one of your teams is racing against you one night, and does badly, and then goes through the card the next night riding for you.. 

Again, the optics maybe wouldn't look too good..

And then you can add in riders switching off to let a team mate passed, so they get paid the same, but keep their average lower, and you have a fair few "issues" any betting company could feel "uncomfortable" getting involved with..

Particularly when they are doing individual points scored, head to heads, final league positions, etc..

It would, no doubt, be totally all genuine and above board from the riders and team managers perspective...

But. Would a betting company want to get involved with such situations being such an integral part of the operating model? 

 

That would be the end of the sport imo.