gjcone44 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 he did what he did and caused the incident. we have seen this happen in gps, so dont try using the inexperienced excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said: For curiosity, what should Cooper have done, just wave Harrison through??? He shouldn't have turned left, you can see in the excellent video analysis that @Dave_minall posted he literally turns his front wheel to the left at the 14 second mark... you can't show those that don't want to see 🙈 Edited May 11 by IainB 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_minall Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 I should have put this in the video in hindsight, but in the closeup you can see Harrison off the throttle with his left foot down trying to slow down as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 these are young riders on a new track. i think he went to block harrison without appreciating the amount of speed he had scrubbed off would mean that he would likely cut him up. it wasnt as though it he fenced the guy but it was dangerous riding - intended or not 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 2 hours ago, IainB said: He shouldn't have turned left, you can see in the excellent video analysis that @Dave_minall posted he literally turns his front wheel to the left at the 14 second mark... you can't show those that don't want to see 🙈 The white trail line is the biggest evidence you need regardless of the front wheel movement. Rushen doesn't deviate. I'm still waiting for an explanation as to what Cooper should have done?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: The white trail line is the biggest evidence you need regardless of the front wheel movement. Rushen doesn't deviate. I'm still waiting for an explanation as to what Cooper should have done?? I'll say it one final time and then leave it... He shouldn't have turned left. You do realise that although it looks like his front wheel is pointing to the right that they are actually coming towards us so that means he's turning left 😂😂 Edited May 11 by IainB 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 59 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: The white trail line is the biggest evidence you need regardless of the front wheel movement. Rushen doesn't deviate. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 19 minutes ago, IainB said: I'll say it one final time and then leave it... He shouldn't have turned left. You do realise that although it looks like his front wheel is pointing to the right that they are actually coming towards us so that means he's turning left 😂😂 But, if you look at the video from behind, although Cooper's front wheel is turning left, his bike is still moving straight or to the right. He never comes in beyond mid track. If you look at the first lap Kye Thomson rides a similar line, albeit that he doesn't scrub off speed by over locking. Maybe Cooper was just following the line Kye took on the previous lap, thinking that was the racing line When people say 'what else could Luke have done' then look at the line Jody Scott took at the end of lap one to go inside Luke and much closer to the white line. I doubt anyone is going to change their mind about what happened and who caused it. Of course, these incidents happen in the blink of an eye. Given injuries to riders elsewhere over the last few days I am just glad that the injuries here appear relatively minor (although any concussion is not to be treated lightly) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phillwhitewasmad Posted May 11 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 11 hi guys could we leave this alone my son took quite a knock in this incident . he and cooper who are good mates have discussed it and are ok with it. its racing it happens lets move on. 12 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 36 minutes ago, IainB said: I'll say it one final time and then leave it... He shouldn't have turned left. You do realise that although it looks like his front wheel is pointing to the right that they are actually coming towards us so that means he's turning left 😂😂 Anyone can do a screen shot to suit an argument. His machine does not go left at any point down the straight and he's lined up to go through gate 3. Video evidence is very very clear on what happened. It seems some still need lessons in basic physics. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwaySlider72 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said: Anyone can do a screen shot to suit an argument. His machine does not go left at any point down the straight and he's lined up to go through gate 3. Video evidence is very very clear on what happened. It seems some still need lessons in basic physics. You're wrong and anyone who knows speedway knows what happened. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 On 5/11/2026 at 4:06 PM, phillwhitewasmad said: hi guys could we leave this alone my son took quite a knock in this incident . he and cooper who are good mates have discussed it and are ok with it. its racing it happens lets move on. Well said. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 (edited) On 5/11/2026 at 4:06 PM, phillwhitewasmad said: hi guys could we leave this alone my son took quite a knock in this incident . he and cooper who are good mates have discussed it and are ok with it. its racing it happens lets move on. A couple of things here: a) how are we to know who you are? 2) fans discuss incidents, it's part and parcel of the sport. I don't think it was done deliberately, but this is an occasion when a lot of people (including Jan Staechmann) think the rider ahead should have been declared as the cause of the stoppage. Obviously we all feel for the injured riders. That shouldn't prevent fans from discussing what happened. Edited May 13 by Roger Jacobs Pressed "Save" too early! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 13 Author Report Share Posted May 13 54 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: A couple of things here: a) how are we to know who you are? 2) fans discuss incidents, it's part and parcel of the sport. I don't think it was done deliberately, but this is an occasion when a lot of people (including Jan Staechmann) think the rider ahead should have been declared as the cause of the stoppage. Obviously we all feel for the injured riders. That shouldn't prevent fans from discussing what happened. It is Luke's Dad, several on here could vouch for that. Also discussing it is fine but its gone on and on and on and got a bit silly (in BSF style) now so you can understand riders and their families getting fed up with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 25 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: It is Luke's Dad, several on here could vouch for that. Also discussing it is fine but its gone on and on and on and got a bit silly (in BSF style) now so you can understand riders and their families getting fed up with it. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 28 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: It is Luke's Dad, several on here could vouch for that. Also discussing it is fine but it's gone on and on and on and got a bit silly (in BSF style) now so you can understand riders and their families getting fed up with it. "philwhitewasmad" and "in the fence" doesn't sound like someone who shies away from discussing hard riding ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago People moaning about Cooper turning left need to be at the GP tonight.Zmarzlik and Woryna turn left very early when it stops riders from getting inside them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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