Ipswich v Belle Vue 25th June

[tyler42]

17 hours ago, YeOldPitGate said:

To be fair he is the ultimate big fish in a small pond in the championship, and he's played the game like a finally tuned fiddle, knows he's too old now to make it into the gp , rides for two of the best clubs in the UK so knows he will get paid on time.

At championship level he can win most rides in his sleep and at top level he's still a 7 point man without too much bother. Also self employed so he has winter earnings covered and can fit work around speedway.

If you're one of the 90% of riders who won't make it to the top level he is the blue print to follow for decent earnings without the cost of a gp team.

Spot on, A throwback to when riders rode and worked.

[PhilTheAce]

ill take that result from a bunch of throttle jockeys

[mikebv]

3 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

ill take that result from a bunch of throttle jockeys

Heavily depleted throttle jockey's....

[Roger Jacobs]

19 hours ago, SilentLurker said:

Whenever you find yourself wondering what is causing the downfall of British speedway be it selfish promoters, finances, lack of advertisement, no characters in the sport anymore, unreliable meetings with the weather etc.

The truth is the downfall is down to tracks like this. Any possibility of racing is absolutely strangled from the off. Follow the leader on repeat for 15 hearts month in month out and year in year out.

Tripe. 

The truth is that modern super-tuned finely-balanced machinery has ruined tacks like Ipswich.  The rapid pick-up when the throttle is opened, plus the unpredictability on other than perfect surfaces makes them far less suitable on smaller tracks. The behaviour of these machines is resulting in more high-speed crashes (Jack Holder’s is a prime example) - previously that would only happen if the throttle jammed open. The riders are to blame for that incessant need to “improve”, yet all they’ve done is increased costs for everyone.

[Mau]

The new promotion need to get some of the fun elements back into the meetings. With Kevin and the late John Earey there was always interaction with the crowd and banter with the riders.  I used to love Kevin's poems  and still remember  John Earey getting fined by the referee for delaying the meeting whilst he picked up Mars bars that were thrown to him, off the track. With Foz its all got so boring, has Foz ever cracked a joke or made a witticism in his life?  As well as another announcer we need a character mascot that can help whip enthusiasm .

On a positive note, last night it was good to see most of the riders do a lap of honour round the stock car track when they won a race,  this should be the norm. How about having some flags with the new logo on that  they can wave as they go round, smaller ones could be sold in the track shop for the crowd.  

 

Edited yesterday at 04:51 PM by Mau

[marko]

1 hour ago, Roger Jacobs said:

The truth is that modern super-tuned finely-balanced machinery has ruined tacks like Ipswich.  The rapid pick-up when the throttle is opened, plus the unpredictability on other than perfect surfaces makes them far less suitable on smaller tracks. The behaviour of these machines is resulting in more high-speed crashes (Jack Holder’s is a prime example) - previously that would only happen if the throttle jammed open. The riders are to blame for that incessant need to “improve”, yet all they’ve done is increased costs for everyone.

I cannot like this post enough, it is everything that is wrong with the sport.

Would love to see a Danny King go around Ipswich on a two valve or even a upright Jawa 897 and compare the times bet there won’t be much in it if at all.

[IainB]

1 hour ago, Roger Jacobs said:

The riders are to blame for that incessant need to “improve”, yet all they’ve done is increased costs for everyone.

Personally I think the FIM are to blame, they are the ones who set the technical regs. In sports like F1 they press the reset button every few years or the cars would be far too dangerous for the tracks they are racing on, the FIM don't seem to do this, for Speedway at least. 

[mikebv]

19 hours ago, IainB said:

Personally I think the FIM are to blame, they are the ones who set the technical regs. In sports like F1 they press the reset button every few years or the cars would be far too dangerous for the tracks they are racing on, the FIM don't seem to do this, for Speedway at least. 

A fair call...

I don't remember PC needing leading link forks, a lay down engine, electric ignition timings, nor a lap top in the pits, to make a Speedway bike "sing"..

If BZ got some "Pride" coloured handlebars with matching mudguards, every NDL rider in the land would buy the same, thinking that was "the secret" to his success...

It is too small a sport to move onwards and onwards with technology, to gain a (whatever?), as it can only restrict participation due to costs...

Dan T's VLOG is fantastic (clubs please take note), and his workshop must have thousands of pounds  of spares in it...

Hence clubs then need to pay riders enough to afford all this equipment...

And, in the UK, to achieve what exactly?....

[Trotter65]

1 hour ago, mikebv said:

A fair call...

I don't remember PC needing leading link forks, a lay down engine, electric ignition timings, nor a lap top in the pits, to make a Speedway bike "sing"..

If BZ got some "Pride" coloured handlebars with matching mudguards, every NDL rider in the land would buy the same, thinking that was "the secret" to his success...

It is too small a sport to move onwards and onwards with technology, to gain a (whatever?), as it can only restrict participation due to costs...

Dan T's VLOG is fantastic (clubs please take note), and his workshop must have thousands of pounds  of spares in it...

Hence clubs then need to pay riders enough to afford all this equipment...

And, in the UK, to achieve what exactly?....

PC’s very best years were at the start of the 4 valve revolution when he was one of the very first riders to benefit from the introduction and factory backing which forced every rider to catch up …a fantastic rider but every top rider is in at every development forcing everybody else into catch up to keep up

 I agree current bikes are not suited to most small British tracks but given the right track and the right riders the actual racing is probably better than I have ever seen

[ouch]

4 hours ago, mikebv said:

 

Dan T's VLOG is fantastic (clubs please take note), and his workshop must have thousands of pounds  of spares in it...

Take note indeed. They need to be bumping out content on various social media to the tune of around 100 per month on each platform. I’d imagine Plymouth & Glasgow are doing this give the well deserved plaudits but are any top tier clubs dedicating that amount of time to this (not really) new avenue of promotion?