TTT Posted October 22 Report Share Posted October 22 3 minutes ago, Gavan said: Tom is happy at Ipswich and the club stood by him Unlike Belle Vue who decided to keep Blodorn and Lidsey rather than a young English rider Not saying that was the wrong choice at all but I’m sure Tom would rather be at a club that will support his career rather than move him on quickly Agree. Didn't they bin him off as soon as he wasn't eligible for the Rising Star scheme? Can't imagine Tom going back after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 22 Report Share Posted October 22 1 hour ago, TTT said: Agree. Didn't they bin him off as soon as he wasn't eligible for the Rising Star scheme? Can't imagine Tom going back after that. Not factual correct. Talk about adding insult to injury. Rules say we need to lose riders then the forum not rights have a go at us for losing riders. Only in speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 22 Report Share Posted October 22 1 hour ago, TTT said: Agree. Didn't they bin him off as soon as he wasn't eligible for the Rising Star scheme? Can't imagine Tom going back after that. Not factual correct. Talk about adding insult to injury. Rules say we need to lose riders then the forum not rights have a go at us for losing riders. Only in speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 22 Report Share Posted October 22 1 hour ago, TTT said: Agree. Didn't they bin him off as soon as he wasn't eligible for the Rising Star scheme? Can't imagine Tom going back after that. Wasn't there some "issues" that season, (one with Charles Wright springs to mind), that may have helped influence the decision... PTA will have more recollection than me I am sure.. FWIW I have always thought of Tom as a Steve Worrall level rider, ie capable of beating the very best, but not consistently enough to reach the worlds top 30 or so... Someone who will be a solid scorer in both UK leagues, but not an out and out top two HL in the top league.. He does look to be on a bargain average next season for any team who have a genuine top level top two, and can fit him in at No 3 or as a Second String.. You would have to think Ipswich wouldn't miss out on such a potential "cheat code" if they can use him as a second string in particular.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted October 22 Report Share Posted October 22 3 hours ago, mikebv said: Wasn't there some "issues" that season, (one with Charles Wright springs to mind), that may have helped influence the decision... PTA will have more recollection than me I am sure.. FWIW I have always thought of Tom as a Steve Worrall level rider, ie capable of beating the very best, but not consistently enough to reach the worlds top 30 or so... Someone who will be a solid scorer in both UK leagues, but not an out and out top two HL in the top league.. He does look to be on a bargain average next season for any team who have a genuine top level top two, and can fit him in at No 3 or as a Second String.. You would have to think Ipswich wouldn't miss out on such a potential "cheat code" if they can use him as a second string in particular.. King has already signed so that “cheat code” for Brennan just levels that out IF he re-signs for Ipswich which I hope he does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOpinion Posted October 23 Report Share Posted October 23 (edited) Kurtz Klindt B. Cook Tungate Bewley Cairns U21 Janowski also available on a 6.06 if he'd come back to the UK. Would be good at home at least. Personally I can't see us dropping both of Blodorn and Zischke anyway. I think we will hold on to at least one of them. Edited October 23 by TheOpinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 23 Report Share Posted October 23 I think the Klindt thing is a knee jerk reaction to his play off showing. I don’t see us replacing a young improving German with a near 40 year old Dane. If anything I think out of our two guests in the final, it would be Mitch that joins us despite his zero score at Sheffield. I think we will have a Cook, especially as it’s best to leave Jaimon at Northampton as they continue to establish themselves. It’ll be his first season in a team not put together by Mark. The top two will join forces for a seventh season (less one for Dan when Godfrey famously blocked him following Dans announcement on twitter about his return in ‘22) The last spot in the top five is the perennial mystery as we always have to make a change due to the points limit unfortunately. It would be great to keep continuity at reserve but that would take some leeway from the powers that be (riders have ridden in a U21 position whilst being 21) and a firm rejection to the cheque book clubs circling once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 23 Report Share Posted October 23 I think the Klindt thing is a knee jerk reaction to his play off showing. I don’t see us replacing a young improving German with a near 40 year old Dane. If anything I think out of our two guests in the final, it would be Mitch that joins us despite his zero score at Sheffield. I think we will have a Cook, especially as it’s best to leave Jaimon at Northampton as they continue to establish themselves. It’ll be his first season in a team not put together by Mark. The top two will join forces for a seventh season (less one for Dan when Godfrey famously blocked him following Dans announcement on twitter about his return in ‘22) The last spot in the top five is the perennial mystery as we always have to make a change due to the points limit unfortunately. It would be great to keep continuity at reserve but that would take some leeway from the powers that be (riders have ridden in a U21 position whilst being 21) and a firm rejection to the cheque book clubs circling once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted Sunday at 09:24 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:24 AM On 10/23/2026 at 11:00 AM, ouch said: It would be great to keep continuity at reserve but that would take some leeway from the powers that be (riders have ridden in a U21 position whilst being 21) and a firm rejection to the cheque book clubs circling once again. Well I've heard that BV are offering silly money to Coops. Who knows. Could be rubbish but holds about as much water as anything else written on here I guess. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted Sunday at 09:38 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:38 AM (edited) 15 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Well I've heard that BV are offering silly money to Coops. Who knows. Could be rubbish but holds about as much water as anything else written on here I guess. They're also close to matching other clubs with an “eye watering” offer for Cairns. Don’t fall for the “we run on a tight budget” bollocks. They just love to paint themselves as the victorious underdog but they're anything but. Edited Sunday at 09:40 AM by Steve Irving 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted Sunday at 10:34 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:34 AM 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Well I've heard that BV are offering silly money to Coops. Who knows. Could be rubbish but holds about as much water as anything else written on here I guess. I’ve heard Northampton are offering 1 million pounds for their number one - per meeting! Could be rubbish but holds about as much water as anything else written on here I guess.🤣 It’s been mentioned on here that Cooper should move to Belle Vue to further his career but if he wants to come it’s for Belle Vue money, the level of which he is use to being at Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Kurtz Tate Blodorn ???? Z cook ???? RS im guessing that how we will look Leaves 8.98 for 2 places Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 12 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: Kurtz Tate Blodorn ???? Z cook ???? RS im guessing that how we will look Leaves 8.98 for 2 places Will be a challenge with three riders moving up a position in the team higher than the positions their averages were gained at.. Blodorn and Cook to HL's and Tate to Second String... And the RS? Won't be as good as Cairns you would have to think.. Klindt at four?.. And ???? at six, probably needs to be a very decent level U21... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 20 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: Kurtz Tate Blodorn ???? Z cook ???? RS im guessing that how we will look Leaves 8.98 for 2 places After a couple of big exits, It makes it even more baffling as to why Lidsey isn't in the 1-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, mikebv said: Will be a challenge with three riders moving up a position in the team higher than the positions their averages were gained at.. Blodorn and Cook to HL's and Tate to Second String... And the RS? Won't be as good as Cairns you would have to think.. Klindt at four?.. And ???? at six, probably needs to be a very decent level U21... As soon as the Wroclaw agreement hit Belle Vue the pivot should've been Kurtz, B. Cook and Lidsey as a Top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Just now, TTT said: As soon as the Wroclaw agreement hit Belle Vue the pivot should've been Kurtz, B. Cook and Lidsey as a Top 3. I dont expect Bewley to race over here. Even with the rumours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: I dont expect Bewley to race over here. Even with the rumours. Dans reaction to the new ruling regarding riding in your home league to gain starting permission to ride abroad points to him giving the uk a miss for 27. But I imagine things have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, TTT said: As soon as the Wroclaw agreement hit Belle Vue the pivot should've been Kurtz, B. Cook and Lidsey as a Top 3. In the Speedway Star, Mark Lemon mentioned how he likes to keep as many riders as he can, which does make sense if they have improvement in them (like last season), as you have invested time in them and had to take the "not too good days"... It is much more of a gamble when coming off a season of good increases in averages, and for riders to move up a position in a team and even just keep the same average will be a challenge.. The joys of being successful in Speedway!!😁 The opportunity being of course, that a poor season from "the engine room" could see them having great averages for the 2028 team!!😁 Only in Speedway... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 13 minutes ago, mikebv said: In the Speedway Star, Mark Lemon mentioned how he likes to keep as many riders as he can, which does make sense if they have improvement in them (like last season), as you have invested time in them and had to take the "not too good days"... It is much more of a gamble when coming off a season of good increases in averages, and for riders to move up a position in a team and even just keep the same average will be a challenge.. The joys of being successful in Speedway!!😁 The opportunity being of course, that a poor season from "the engine room" could see them having great averages for the 2028 team!!😁 Only in Speedway... Much like Stewart Dickson then when it comes to Leicester. Will stick with as many riders as possible and help them progress as much as they can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Best 1-7 I can put together with info on Bewley, Lidsey, Cairns etc. 1. B. Kurtz 9.22 2. T. Zischke 5.47 3. M. Zagar 5.71 4. N. Blodorn 6.02 5. Z. Cook 7.35 6. 3.00 7. Rising Star = 36.77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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