therefused Posted Wednesday at 11:11 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 11:11 AM Poland don’t need to produce swathes of world champions, they just need to produce enough riders of a decent quality to sustain there league system. Something that is no longer happening in this country and it’s very worrying indeed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Wednesday at 11:17 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 11:17 AM Rushen opted out, now his average is too high - no complaints from me. Cairns is the result of poor decision making, I see no good reason why the RS limit was lowered from 4.00 to 3.50, in Poland U21s stay at reserve all year regardless of ability, so they've half copied Poland's rules, but put their own spin on it, which doesn't benefit British riders imo. Rider too weak for the Prem will get plenty of opportunities, riders who have reached the reserve level & can hold their own, will be dropped once reaching 22. It could be Cairns would have opted out of the RS scheme, if there hadn't been changes, to avoid the RS pay structure, but we'll never know? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted Wednesday at 11:39 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 11:39 AM 19 minutes ago, therefused said: Poland don’t need to produce swathes of world champions, they just need to produce enough riders of a decent quality to sustain there league system. Something that is no longer happening in this country and it’s very worrying indeed However Poland is not succeeding. There is some angsting a out the paucity of 25/26 year olds, as riders drop out after 21 and 24 when the junior competitions are no longer open to them. See for example https://kibic-zuzla.pl/polscy-seniorzy-25-29-lat/ 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted Wednesday at 03:39 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 03:39 PM 3 hours ago, arnieg said: However Poland is not succeeding. There is some angsting a out the paucity of 25/26 year olds, as riders drop out after 21 and 24 when the junior competitions are no longer open to them. See for example https://kibic-zuzla.pl/polscy-seniorzy-25-29-lat/ very interesting, when i rode in the eighties , got no help what so ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted Wednesday at 10:07 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 10:07 PM The Polish quality rider production line is not what it was. Zmarzlik is now 31 since he exploded onto the scene only Woryna (30), Kubera (27), Ceirniak (24), Przyjemski (21) & Pawełczak (17) have potential been world class. Denmark's looks better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Anyone got a list of all past 'Rising Stars' and where are they now?? Would be intriguing to see if the system has any meaning to the sport other than 'Money Saving'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 33 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Anyone got a list of all past 'Rising Stars' and where are they now?? Would be intriguing to see if the system has any meaning to the sport other than 'Money Saving'. the 2021 list rising_stars_21.05.21-1.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said: Anyone got a list of all past 'Rising Stars' and where are they now?? Would be intriguing to see if the system has any meaning to the sport other than 'Money Saving'. Isn't it a set £70 a point for the RS's...? (I know, reality might be different...) You could actually argue that the lower the quality, the more it will cost the clubs as more expensive riders beat them.. Looking at the six listed, and the No6's so far signed, many of the RS's will only score the majority of their points against each other I would think.. Edited 1 hour ago by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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