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I think it's more to do with trying to ensure away teams are sent home pointless. Fewer points your opposition take is less chance of them making the top 4 play offs. It's all about the end of season points tally that counts. Anything you can do to restrict points scoring by the opposition the better.

Predicted line ups. Kings Lynn 1. Iversen 2. Rose/RR 3. Proctor 4. Jorgensen 5. Lambert 6. Kerr 7. Andersen Poole 1. Kurtz 2. Woryna 3. Grajczonek 4. Sundstrom 5. Kildemand 6. Szczepaniak 7. Shanes After Pooles performance last night, i'm cautiously predicting a 75-15 Lynn victory.

What do you mean - just let them have a team average higher than the other teams because someone was injured? Obviously not as box office as Vaculik but Bjerre has good experience of the tracks in this country and did well last season for BV.

Always good to here from people who are actually involved with the sport. This track lark isn't as easy as many ,including me thought..

The shale going on a Poole is proper stuff not cheap rubbish. Its a speedway blend to our specification . The other 10% is limestone 6mm to dust. Glyn

I thought he meant his riders?

Yep pure bullsh#t

Could make a difference if come the end of the year KL pip Swindon to the last play off spot by 1 point.....

Charlie Webster, along with that althlete Jessica Ennis-Hill both went out of their way to publicly abuse Ched Evans. Whilst they might have had the right when he was banged up in prison, humility in apologising once it had been found that he was innocent would have been the correct step to take. Neither Webster or Hill have found it in themselves to do the right thing. Got no time for either of them. I will also say if she’s got malaria it’s her own fault. Wouldn’t wish it on her but really, if you are heading to a country where there’s a chance of contracting malaria, you take a course of medication before leaving the UK.

Iversen will be fine. In all honesty im impressed with Lynn so far, proctor riding particulary well

well I said anything under 40 would be alarming... this was worse than I feared ....... oh boy do the diamonds have problems well done redcar... but don't get too excited ... you wont have an easier home meeting (until we return)....... one wonders how the Newcastle Propaganda machine will respond next I laughed when I saw the newspaper article about Sheffield and in a meeting where we were hammered 59 31, the biggest part was about our 5 1 win in heat 2 justifying our strong reserves and the make up of our team ...... ignore the fact 3 riders got maximums against us Then (and I enjoy Ranting Roy!!) but the bare faced cheek to criticise us 'internet' 'experts' in his article cos he knows better and he likes the look of the team, and then when lindgren wins the 1st race on sunday, he proudly boasts who says lindgren cant be a number 1 - well Roy ..... 12 points in 13 races in 3 meetings would say so No doubt the reports tomorrow will report how superb the diamonds were in the 1st 4 heats and 12 12 was a reflection of this great team. Then the last line will end ... and redcar won a close 58 32............. Still what do I know ....... I'm just an internet 'expert' ...... It gives me no joy to written this.... boy do I wish we had a team like Sheffield (or even Redcar!!) ..... but the criticism of this team .... from what I have seen ...... has been fair and measured .... yes they are all triers ...... but its a team of 7 second strings ....... and I know the promoters hands were tied ..... but at the end of the day we are simply not competitive ....... Scunthorpe would have beaten us if they had picked a better guest (and Roy that's a fact not opinion .. there is a reason why lewis kerr is 6.8) .... redcar will start as favourites on sunday and heaven help us when Sheffield roll into town...... 3 meetings gone and we have won 11 heats ..... that's fact .... not an opinion ps I also feel sorry for lindgren .... he's riding like a man carrying the world on his shoulders ... a he's on a hiding to nothing at number 1

Whatever he feels I’m sure the feeling is mutual

Starman is an expert at digging holes for himself!

Like everyone else Ivan had to learn how to ride Brough when he first came. With long straights and tight corners you have to have great skill to slide in with power and already be broadside ready for the drive out of the next bend. In those days it rode like a Diamond, and Ivan spent hours after the first meetings throwing in the bike from even just past the starting gate, which was one hell of a slide. He often filled his fuel tank full(bigger in those days I believe) and would on his own ride probably 20 laps flat out trying to get it right. He was of course physically very fit, and a lot of other riders at the time could only watch him as their fitness was no good for such durations, He experimented with bikes that he bought when he first arrived until he found the frame and setup that he preferred. Him and his then German mechanic would load up his Bedford snub nose van and head off to buy bikes, and go to other tracks to get extra rides. He was fanatical to get it right. I remember when Peter Kelly lived beside him in Manchester, he told me that if he met him say a Xmas time the conversation was always speedway nothing else, he was so driven. The track in those days was even narrower, with straights always about the legal minimum of 8 metres as it is now, and the corners were tight, possibly be about 10 to 12 metres wide. After we opened up in 1997, the corners were 10m on corners 1and 2 and about 12m on corners 3 and 4. In the late 90's we took 2 metres off the inside kerb of both ends, and that is the shape and sizes that we have now. The 3rd and 4 bends have always been 2 m wider that the 1st and second. The track probably got its 'rough' name over time by others that couldn't ride it, and because with a powered broadside hitting similar positions every lap, the wear must be considerably harder/more. Say a track like Somerest with a wide track. multiple race lines and constantly drifting rather sideways power, the condition of the track is going to be smoother for longer. Nowadays and in the recent past the track is nowhere near 'rough' as delusional Redcar fans would have you believe, but does have by choice more dirt on it to get better grip. That is the riders choice to give them more overtaking options. There must be something right about Brough with 4 world Champions to our claim, Mauger, Olsen, Michanek and Nicki. We'll not count Brian Anderson as we got him for 6 weeks after he won the U21 title.

Jessica Ennis-Hill didn't - she was forced into it by various media because SUFC had named a stand after her after her 2012 Olympic triumph. In my opinion this was a bandwagon jumping exercise as she has never claimed to be a football fan, what else was she meant to say with the hysteria surrounding this issue at the time?? Yet she seems to be carrying the can for everyone who had an opinion about the issue. Charlie Webster did go out of her way to have her say. But I still find some of the comments and sniping at other posters on here a bit pathetic. Some fans may be interested to know how she is now.

Shut up It was Burntfaceman that made the remark about lack of passing from Swindon riders not Shovlar I merely pointed out that from updates it seemed only 3 riders made passes, PK, Ellis and Batchelor and i merely pointed out 2 of those were Swindon riders. Shovlar to be fair posted a post saying that most of the passes were in the first and second bend. Neither me or Shovlar wrote anything antagonistic to each other. I didnt 'yammer on' about Steves opinion. Pretty obvious the track was poor with a lack of passing. My response was to Burntfaceman saying that no Swindon riders did any passing when they did. Pretty fed up with everything i write being jumped on by morons like you

I wonder if they will still be of the same opinion if or when Brandon is demolished? Can the housing developers be stopped from removing stuff, digging up the track and drainage etc? heard the other day they have had a quote to tear down and remove the hangers. I'd love to be back at Brandon just like any other Bees fan, but the chances of it ever happening I'd say are minute.

I love how Gavan can yammer on about Steve's opinion on things when he wasn't there, be it a match or the weather, yet he is allowed to make his own assessments about things he wasn't there to directly see. Such a hypocrite and troll. Please note that there have been pleasant conversations and some reminiscing on this thread between fans of opposing teams over the last few days after we got the 'laugh at Poole losing at home' vibe out the way. Take your antagonistic and trolling ways elsewhere Gavan. You're not welcome here.

Stars get a 4-2 in the last to secure a point. So what? Makes no difference to Swindon, whose top two both scrored lower than their average in heat 15. They'd already secured 3 league points. Bring back the old scoring system.

I find One Sport and their events an irrelevance that clutter the international schedule. Your assumption that by being a British Speedway supporter that I must be a fan of an American (IMG) owned business is a shocking misjudgement. Indeed it seems that this is a line being pushed in Poland these days, judging by Sportowe 'Fakty' where BSI are portrayed as working in league with British Speedway against the interests of Poland. I think you'll find that most British supporters couldn't give a damn about BSI and I'm pretty certain the BSPA would have even less sympathy! Portraying poor old innocent Polish Speedway being bullied by the nasty Brits is morally and intellectually bankrupt. BSI are nonetheless running the premier international events. I have my reservations about the revived World Pairs but the SGP decides the World Championship. That's a little more important than seeing which sponsor wins a curtailed 15 heat 6 pair tournament mainly staged on minor circuits. Whether or not BSI or the FIM are doing an acceptable job is also irrelevant to me. I enjoy watching the Grands Prix but speedway for me is a team sport and my real interest lies purely in the major leagues. I've seen the sport over 40-odd years bend over backwards to stimulate the sport in minor countries and I am still waiting for those efforts to bear any fruit. The 'tail wags the dog' in speedway and the needs of tracks that stage maybe three or four meetings a year often seem to be a greater priority than those in the major nations. The blunt truth is that these efforts aren't working and the developed speedway nations are paying the price! Of course the links between business and sport are there. The question is having the right balance. Just what ARE One Sport achieving, apart from being parasites? I am not here to justify the actions of any speedway organisation, and ceretainly not BSI or the BSPA. Been there, had the T-shirt nicked. ;-) Right now in Britain we have rather more pressing matters - trying to keep our 90 year old sport from collapsing. I'll watch tomorrow's pairs but only out of a deep love for watching speedway. I've watched and worked in the sport at all levels since 1971 and still love it deeply, despite some of the deeply depressing people, some of which were downright crooks, that I've had to deal with over the years. Sometimes I wonder why, especially when reading this forum, bit I still just love watching speedway, but preferably a team match. As you can imagine I can 'smell' bull (trying to keep it polite) from a long distance after all these years and if people are out to pull the wool over people's eyes I'm not the best target.

The Premiership should have gone Monday - Thursday allowed the Championship clubs to also run those night's but they'd have to forego the priority rights to rider's signed up to Premiership clubs. With the Premiership the flagship league they should always hold the priority regardless of assets etc.

Shocked and saddened to read this, seeing him at Berwick was all to brief and all to rare but he was a thoroughly decent guy. RIP Martin.

A wonderful tribute to Ivan Mauger in today's Star with great words by people who clearly knew and loved the man himself. Made it very difficult to read this morning But brilliantly put together by the whole team. Looking forward to next week's issue which is promised to offer even more and, hopefully, by then the emotions of his death will be a little less raw for us all. I particularly appreciated the chequered strap at top and bottom across the pages ... a great touch. And I have to say the new style Star front page combined with the stunning 1970s photos of Ivan look just beautiful. Thank you to all involved.

Cracking meeting, lots of passing thoughout, can only remember 2 races FTG. For Sheffield an honorable mention to Charles Wright he had some really close battles. Can see both these teams in the top 4 this season.

Well done lads a nice 4 pointer. Seems to have been an abnormally high amount of falls even for Armadale standards. But this sets us up nicely for Sunday.

Bv video company submit the footage. Why do you think the clips shown never show bv losing a heat?

The video is from the Speedway GB website. As SS said, "probably the best race of night" and it was of course won by a Poole rider but then 10 minutes later he had second thoughts and said a different race was "a better race" but suggested there was some sort of bias in not showing it. That's the first time I've heard the BSPA being accused of bias against Poole.

In theory it's for 28 days. But you can then re-apply again and again and again. So it shouldn't be (and usually isn't) a problem as long as He keeps submitting Sick notes. You might have had a problem if he got injured riding for Belle Vue BEFORE turning out for you as a facility isn't always allowed if a rider hasn't rode in the current) or at the end of the last) season for the team concerned . That's why Poole had to sign Kildemand on a temp contract to replace Holder. You will have a problem if he starts riding for Belle Vue and/or Poland and you are still using a facility for him. Unlikely, it's true, but it has happened.

didnt you tell glyn the track" needed more water during the day"????

Heat 9

Hougaard had some good performances at the NSS in 2016 but was not impressive on his visits last year and is certainly not an adequate replacement for Worrall. Steve has stepped up a gear this year but even last year Hougaard's average of 6.09 against Steve 6.77 shows the disparity between them. I think the jury is still out on the Drozdz, Starke comparison. Far too early to make a realistic assessment of Drozdz but he scored 5 on his home debut and looks to have potential. Starke did well at Poole, a former home track, scoring 8 but was poor at the NSS, scoring only 3. He has the advantage of knowing the UK tracks but doesn't show signs to me of a rider about to improve his current average. At the moment I wouldn't put one above the other but would prefer to see Drozdz given the chance to show how good he is.

Charles looks like he's been at Owlerton for years, both Smudger jnr and James will more than hold there own at reserve. Todd is looking like a heat leader at the moment, Kyle and Lasse could turn out as the best top two in the league and when we get Josh back, this team could take some stopping.

Am I missing something? Surely Lynn snatching a point rather than Swindon making sure they didnt still makes it competitive? You cannot beat the old bonus point system tho. Much better

You should change your name ...

To keep their average down, It can help with team changes if they are needed. Their is no incentive in heat 15, once the match is won at home. Like someone else said, if the away's team's point was taken off the home teams points, bringing down to 2 points, then you might see a different attitude.

Why would they not be trying ? or are they on guarantees ?

Agreed, if we had the potential to only get 2 points instead of 3 the last race result could have been different and more exciting. Have seen a couple of meetings where it is obvious the riders are not trying 100% in heat 15 because they have won the meeting even though the lead is less than 6 points.

Not correct according to people who were there and updates Heat 7 - PK passed Batch Heat 10 - Batch passed Woryna and Ellis passed both Woryna and Kurtz ( now correct me if im wrong but they are both Swindon riders?) Heat 13 - PK passed Morris and Musielek Heat 14 - Ellis passed both MS and Sundstrom (again im sure Ellis is a Swindon rider) Heat 15 - PK passed Batch Now correct me if im wrong thats 2 Swindon riders who made passes and only 1 Poole rider. I gather it was gaters paradise but if 2 Swindon riders can pass its a bit poor that only 1 Poole rider can manage it

Best moment Zach beating NKI, apart from that not much to get excited about. Decent weather, decent crowd, mediocre racing, and Robins top of league again !!!

Here’s hoping there’s more grip on the outside for this one!

Wouldn’t ‘Help’ by The Beatles be more appropriate?

A nice minutes Round of applause tonight from everyone at the meeting giving the memory of Ivan Mauger massive respect.

I'll take that all day long. This Lynn team may not be the most talented but they seem to have plenty of grit and determination. Did Troy throttle off on the last bend of heat 15

Thanks Pawel and Roman for your input- always good having polish speakers giving us insight.

I thought kildermand was in the 1to7 until we redeclare bringing holder in may be wrong ?

Apparently Matt Ford insisted Swindon ride on Thursdays at Blunsdon ....... rather than Wednesdays at Poole.

Looking forward to following this meet on updates. C'mon the Stars Sorry Orlov

This is a new item, read Rob's post.

Quite agree and Ched was hardly innocent was he.

Aggressive? I totally got what you meant about manor so please don't mock by asking me to look at your highlighted piece and have a think. I notice you've got bees as your team yet all you do is be negative and go against anything positive. For such an old poster I find your repetition boring. You aren't the only one though - why don't you go and sit up brandon and imagine what could of been. The situation is as it is and I doubt it will change very soon if at all. Many other supporters from other tracks have been through this or similar. You've got a very strange way of being a speedway supporter.