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4 hours ago, Mr S Bear said:

Looking at the drawings for the revised scheme for the redevelopment of the Abbey Stadium on the council web site I would comment as follows

It does not help that some of the descriptions of the drawings/documents do not match the actual drawings/documents which suggests a less than professional approach or a rushed and unchecked submission. This is further reinforced by the fact that there are two different car park layouts/size and shape of grandstand shown on different drawings- the one on the master plan dated May 2017 is different from that on the site plan dated December 2017. I would have expected that the relevant consultant would revised the drawings so that everyone is singing off the same hymn sheet and the planners know what they are approving, the builder knows what he is building and the developer knows what he is paying for.

Whilst the first floor hospitality area is large (approx. 37.5m x 19.5m) I would question how useful it will be for speedway or greyhound fans who want to watch the racing. The floor is flat and the two projecting wings at either end of the viewing balcony limit the amount of the speedway/greyhound track that can be seen and anybody viewing the racing from the balcony will further restrict the view of fans in the hospitality area. I assume that its main function will be to generate monies from conferences/functions etc

There are two stands shown at either end of the main “grandstand” building 11m x 10m and 25m x 10m but the submitted drawings gave no further details. Judging by the perspectives of the grandstand posted on this forum these stand appear to be temporary stands similar to those at Leicester but with no cover! Other than these stands and the first floor viewing balcony fans will have to stand on the hardstand which runs round the outside of the greyhound track but as there no site sections are included in the submitted documents it is impossible to say if the hardstand is flat, sloping or terraced so viewing could be a problem -remember the complains about the viewing at the Belle Vue Greyhound Stadium

There are two rooms at either end of the viewing balcony which are I assume control rooms for the speedway and greyhounds. The one at the east end is approx 4m back from the first bend and the one at the west end is in line with the end of the fourth bend. The drawings state that the length of the new track is 420m and the home straight measures some 38m and if we assume that the start/finish is half way along the straight then the east box is some 12m in start of the start/finish line whilst the west one is some 26m behind the start/finish line. This could be a problem as some refs have trouble making the correct decision when they are in the traditional location in line with the start/finish line. Also the ref’s boxes are accessed from the main public stairs so I trust the doors are strong and have good locks.

The site plan show a total of 469 car parking spaces plus space for 24 motor cycles, 5 spaces for mini buses, 3 spaces for coaches plus a bus stop/lay-by. I understand from the last season eve of season Speedway Star special that the Abbey Stadium is not served by public transport. It is some years since I saw 8 buses or coaches at a speedway meeting so the number of spaces for buses/coaches does appear to be excessive or maybe they are required to encourage people to get to the stadium by other means than car as required by the transport plan for the previous scheme. The buses/coaches appear to have a separate one way exit route from that used by cars but all exit routes join together and exit onto Lady Lane. This may be a problem when a large crowd tried to exit at the same time.

There appears to be no access from the ground floor reception area to the main spectator area without using the stairs/platform lift so I assume that the public access to the spectator area is via turnstiles either side of the “grandstand” but the submitted drawings do not give any information. Also the riders have to cross the hard standing to access the track so measures will have to be taken to prevent riders riding into spectators.

Considering that the reason for the decision to redevelop the current site of the stadium rather than move the stadium is due to problems with drainage it does seem strange that it appears that the relevant consultants have not discussed or reached agreement with the relevant statuary authorities which has resulted in the Lead Local Flood Authority recommending that the scheme not approved as it does not comply with current guidance or there is outstanding information.

Although it is not part of the planning application the question that does need asking is when the developer /contractor hopes to build the development. The scheme involves changing the size and shape of the speedway and greyhound tracks, building two car parking areas and associated access road and junctions, demolishing the existing grandstand and erecting new grandstand and if the speedway/greyhound racing continues during the construction period ensuring the safety of the public who will be attending the speedway and greyhound.

 

Or in other words....it’s all a load of bollocks.

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10 minutes ago, Speedy swindon pete said:

Or in other words....it’s all a load of bollocks.

There were just as many questions about the plans for the "first new site" next to the present stadium.

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10 hours ago, MattK said:

Interesting to see that Google Maps have an updated aerial view of the stadium showing the encroachment of houses.

Then:

https://binged.it/2BuDFoF

Now:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Swindon+Greyhound/@51.6064152,-1.7960524,681m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x487146ec9d041661:0xba6156c784b03b90!8m2!3d51.608415!4d-1.791763
 

 Now that is close :(.

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59 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

 Now that is close :(.

But that does not show the houses right against the stadium boundry on the left of the map or how close the houses are on the bottom of it.

This picture does, a twitter I came across yesterday.

DVlnBU1X4AArSts.jpg

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52 minutes ago, A ORLOV said:

But that does not show the houses right against the stadium boundry on the left of the map or how close the houses are on the bottom of it.

This picture does, a twitter I came across yesterday.

DVlnBU1X4AArSts.jpg

...blimey! Didn't realise that houses were now so close to the stadium having not been for very a long year!

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The ones top left are almost in the pits, they could sell teas in the interval from their kitchen.  

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Does anyone remember the sales slogan (strapline) for the film "he Sting" was "The con is on". Just a random thought............honestly!

I wonder if it's worth going to a show home there, ask to look round then complain that there's a motor sport stadium on the doorstep and see whether you get told "Don't worry, it won't be around much longer". 

 

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Over the weekend I had some time on my hands so, I look at Estate Agents in the Swindon Area then contact them asking if they have any 4 Bedroom Houses for sale in the Blunsdon Area, They all did so I asked 3 of them if they would email me details, When I received the details I responded to them informing them that due to the proximity of the Properties to the Speedway Stadium I would not pursuing a Purchase, then this morning I contacted all the 3 Agency’s and asked if they had lost sales due to the Speedway Stadium and all 3 replied yes they had, but one informed me that if I hold fire that they had been told that there is Developments going on that suggest the Stadium will not progress 

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On 15/02/2018 at 7:46 PM, steve roberts said:

...blimey! Didn't realise that houses were now so close to the stadium having not been for very a long year!

Thing is, with the close proximity of the houses you only need one noise complaint, and that could end speedway.

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1 hour ago, Starman2006 said:

Thing is, with the close proximity of the houses you only need one noise complaint, and that could end speedway.

It's sad really when you consider that they knew what was there when they were purchasing the place isn't it!

 

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5 hours ago, packerman said:

It's sad really when you consider that they knew what was there when they were purchasing the place isn't it!

 

Who are they?

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