dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted December 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Well the first set of new averages will be interesting. If CH doesn't get it together immediately from the start of the season and Brady only drops 0.09 from his average, I wonder which (ex?) GP rider will be heading to Wimborne Road?? Doesnt that assume CH will be at Poole - there is still space elsewhere.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttons 370 Posted December 25, 2017 If Chris doesn't want to be with Poole, cannot see the point of trying to sign him 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
INCOGNITO 357 Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Well the first set of new averages will be interesting. If CH doesn't get it together immediately from the start of the season and Brady only drops 0.09 from his average, I wonder which (ex?) GP rider will be heading to Wimborne Road?? Brady Kurtz will still be classed as an 8+ rider even if his average drops to 6.59 and Woryna is averaging 8.76 it is only Kurtz that is classed as an 8+ rider so any new signing above 8 could only replace the one who is in the original line up. Woryna and Szczpaniek will both increase their averages anyway so will be above 42.5 and don't be Suprised if Holder (or Kasprzak) take the final place at Rye House Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waytogo28 2,054 Posted December 25, 2017 5 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Doesnt that assume CH will be at Poole - there is still space elsewhere.... Here's hoping that the bizarre world of UK speedway doesn't see Buster Chapman and Chris Holder kiss and make up! Too many at KLS wouldn't want to see him back there. Rye House it is then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BurntFaceMan 413 Posted December 25, 2017 3 hours ago, INCOGNITO said: Brady Kurtz will still be classed as an 8+ rider even if his average drops to 6.59 and Woryna is averaging 8.76 it is only Kurtz that is classed as an 8+ rider so any new signing above 8 could only replace the one who is in the original line up. Woryna and Szczpaniek will both increase their averages anyway so will be above 42.5 and don't be Suprised if Holder (or Kasprzak) take the final place at Rye House What? So basically every 8 point rider in the league will be dropped if they don't perform. What a stupid system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
INCOGNITO 357 Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, BurntFaceMan said: What? So basically every 8 point rider in the league will be dropped if they don't perform. What a stupid system. No but Doyle, Cook, Thorssell, Morris, Vaculik and Cook will start as 8+ riders and be listed as that during the season. If you allowed them to get a new average below 8 by May, you are opening the way for six point riders to be dropped to bring in another 8 plus rider (if any want to come) Look at it the other way. If Woryna has a first average of 8.32 and Kurtz is on 8.55, do you have to drop one ...... No because Woryna isn't on the list of 8+ riders and won't be even if they are averaging nine or ten. This is rule has been in before and one team wanted to bring in a new top rider but couldn't because it meant they now had two 8+ riders even though the one that started was now averaging under eight. The same when they bought in the rule no team was allowed more than three riders on 6.50 as these were heat leaders. These stayed classed as heat leaders all season even if they dropped to a figure below 6.50. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,286 Posted December 25, 2017 10 hours ago, Arthur Fry said: because he's never let us down when he's represented us The same was said about KK,but not by you. Holder has done Poole proud in the past,but after injuries and Ward and his attitude to British speedway,i don't think you can go by the past that much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted December 25, 2017 13 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Well the first set of new averages will be interesting. If CH doesn't get it together immediately from the start of the season and Brady only drops 0.09 from his average, I wonder which (ex?) GP rider will be heading to Wimborne Road?? Chrzanowski? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agrotron 955 Posted December 26, 2017 On 25/12/2017 at 10:19 AM, Skidder1 said: Well the first set of new averages will be interesting. If CH doesn't get it together immediately from the start of the season and Brady only drops 0.09 from his average, I wonder which (ex?) GP rider will be heading to Wimborne Road?? Justin Elkins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,093 Posted December 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Agrotron said: Justin Elkins When did he ever ride gp's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,636 Posted December 26, 2017 21 hours ago, INCOGNITO said: Brady Kurtz will still be classed as an 8+ rider even if his average drops to 6.59 and Woryna is averaging 8.76 it is only Kurtz that is classed as an 8+ rider so any new signing above 8 could only replace the one who is in the original line up. Woryna and Szczpaniek will both increase their averages anyway so will be above 42.5 and don't be Suprised if Holder (or Kasprzak) take the final place at Rye House If you've seen that written down anywhere as a 2018 rule, you may well be correct. Also can you please confirm what averages former GP riders will be on - ie for example those that are out of the 2018 series? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted December 26, 2017 14 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: If you've seen that written down anywhere as a 2018 rule, you may well be correct. Also can you please confirm what averages former GP riders will be on - ie for example those that are out of the 2018 series? If that not the case then our sport will be a bigger joke than ever the word fiddle comes to a mind again ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted December 26, 2017 1 hour ago, ray c said: If that not the case then our sport will be a bigger joke than ever the word fiddle comes to a mind again ? There will be races to see which rider has a machine breakdown or an off first Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted December 26, 2017 Don’t forget it only 2 home 2 away to get an average as per the Clegg ruling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
INCOGNITO 357 Posted December 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Skidder1 said: If you've seen that written down anywhere as a 2018 rule, you may well be correct. Also can you please confirm what averages former GP riders will be on - ie for example those that are out of the 2018 series? All riders that have appeared in the Grand Prix Series in the last three seasons and those riding in 2018 that did NOT appear here in 2017 will be given a 9.00 assessed average. This includes Woffinden, Zagar, Lindback, Pawlicki etc but doesn't include Chris Holder 7.16 as he rode here while Lindgren keeps his 9.29 average and Doyle his 9.69. Iversen will be 9.00 as his previous average was just short of nine. The one rule that does seem to have been forgotten is a rider coming to Britain that has achieved a certain average (6.00) in either the Swedish or Polish top division is assessed at 7.00 however Woryna keeps his 4.65 average from 2016 despite reaching an average just under eight for Rybnik which was higher than Doyle, Woffinden, Holder and Hancock. Despite winning the Gold Medal as a member of the World U21 SWC and the fact Coventry failed to start in 2017 (even though he wasn't signed) and he was at reserve in Poland (one easy race only) they have managed to keep his 2016 average Share this post Link to post Share on other sites