Workington V Scunthorpe 05/08/17 7:00pm Champ.

[Lord Lucan 375]

Deserved win for Scunny, overall the more solid team as for the Comets well, that tail was just a little bit too long tonight, always looking one race behind?

 

Question, where is the "real" Matt Williamson, I dont like this version??

[IronScorpion 1,407]

Again, Fozzie makes a similar statement, this time on updates site about getting rid of Wilko 4 months late but he was 1 of our star performers in the early months. Maybe 2 months late at most but cannot fault his effort. Being by himself being a rider & mechanic probably doesn't help, then getting his engines serviced too late.

[Fozzie4388 679]

Fair play to Scunthorpe good 4 points them. Just shows what happens when you have 7 riders on the ball the same night and no taggers on just making up the numbers.

[Lord Lucan 375]

Again, Fozzie makes a similar statement, this time on updates site about getting rid of Wilko 4 months late but he was 1 of our star performers in the early months. Maybe 2 months late at most but cannot fault his effort. Being by himself being a rider & mechanic probably doesn't help, then getting his engines serviced too late.

 

The way things are going over here give it a couple of weeks and Wilko will be riding for us??

[scaramanga 902]

 

The way things are going over here give it a couple of weeks and Wilko will be riding for us??

if only we could make a change

[Tonga 53]

Well done Scunny good team performance

[workyboy 96]

Top 4 ....... not a cat in bells chance!!!

 

Bottom 4 is a better bet. Shocking display from all bar 3 riders.

[Carlislecomet2 304]

Congratulations to Scunthorpe on a well deserved victory.

As for the Comets, apart from Craig and Ty, and a lesser extent Thomas they were a disgrace.

12 last places and for the second week in succession having to resort to a TR in Heat 8 at home says it all.

The way things are going we are going to end the season (if it ever does end) with half a team of National league guests.

The whole of the British speedway set up needs to be shaken up. The top 2 leagues are a joke, and the National league is too cushy. Time for it to be run by people without vested interests, but with the good of the sport at the top of their agenda.

[Olga 31]

I know the team ... is the team ... but surely a riding order of Cook, Williamson, Campton, Jorgenson, Proctor, R1, R2 would be better?

 

Williamson would at least have Heat 8 to have a go in ... and get some confidence back? Williamson has improved enormously it's just a shame now he's up against teams with more experience/comparably better riders at Number 4 (e.g. Lindgren, Douglas, Bates). Heat 14 without a ringer reserve in the team it's almost a given as a heat dis-advantage :-( Also the improved Campton should be able to take the 3 jacket now? That would leave Heat 13 as Cook, Proctor Heat 14 as Jorgenson,Reserve then Heat 15 as Cook, (Jorg or Proctor).

 

Problem is with our league position not being great and so many matches to play ... that'll affect the crowd as we are not riding in a "current" league table (if you see what I mean)

[spanner47 336]

Genuine question for anybody that has met Sarge, is he thick? He was the same at Ipswich, no referee will ever let him get away with a decent start with his reputation, so why cant he just keep still? Surely however thick he might be, somebody must have had a word and explained how much money he must be losing by all these exclusions.

[jenga 2,998]

Genuine question for anybody that has met Sarge, is he thick? He was the same at Ipswich, no referee will ever let him get away with a decent start with his reputation, so why cant he just keep still? Surely however thick he might be, somebody must have had a word and explained how much money he must be losing by all these exclusions.

its in his dna now . he cant change .

 

and yes , he could be a bit thick .

 

rode a wee bit better last night. but still slowish and thickish .

 

got excluced in one race heat 8 and didnt want to go off 15 mtrs . in that race campo won on a tac ride . the visiting number 2 had bike issues . josh bailey finished finised 2nd . .

 

i am sure sarj could have had both of these riders behind him at the end of the race .

 

shot decision by rider and management . from a poss 8-1 to a 6-3 . lost for words really .

 

forgot to add , scunny looking hot at the moment . false league position ! well done the scorps .

Edited August 6, 2017 by jenga

[Lord Lucan 375]

Genuine question for anybody that has met Sarge, is he thick? He was the same at Ipswich, no referee will ever let him get away with a decent start with his reputation, so why cant he just keep still? Surely however thick he might be, somebody must have had a word and explained how much money he must be losing by all these exclusions.

 

Not that much really Spanner, when he's pulled back he generally comes last!!

 

If he'd been around in the seventies he'd have been one of speedway,s best ever starters, cant get away with anything nowadays??

Edited August 6, 2017 by Lord Lucan

[Lord Lucan 375]

I know the team ... is the team ... but surely a riding order of Cook, Williamson, Campton, Jorgenson, Proctor, R1, R2 would be better?

 

Williamson would at least have Heat 8 to have a go in ... and get some confidence back? Williamson has improved enormously it's just a shame now he's up against teams with more experience/comparably better riders at Number 4 (e.g. Lindgren, Douglas, Bates). Heat 14 without a ringer reserve in the team it's almost a given as a heat dis-advantage :-( Also the improved Campton should be able to take the 3 jacket now? That would leave Heat 13 as Cook, Proctor Heat 14 as Jorgenson,Reserve then Heat 15 as Cook, (Jorg or Proctor).

 

Problem is with our league position not being great and so many matches to play ... that'll affect the crowd as we are not riding in a "current" league table (if you see what I mean)

 

If I'm not mistaken Olga, your ht leaders have to be your top 3 in the averages going, best, next best and next best, as Campton doesn't have a better average than Proctor he cant be No3 same as he doesn't have a better average than Jorgensen so cant go to five?

 

Best position for Campo would be four with Williamson going in at two, the problem we have are the misfiring reserves, we dont have anyone to cover poor team performers so we end up with potentially several weak heats relying on ht leaders to just.... win basically?

 

Last I heard it was Jacko's call for riding order so, maybe drop him a line, see if that works!!

 

As for the end of the season, if we run out of time for getting the fixtures done for the play offs, and miss out, even if we could qualify, you'll have several meaningless meetings to race that could have pushed us up the table to that possible top four position but counting toward absolutely nothing coz someone else got there first and we were too late for the party, who's going to watch those?

[gregory peck 308]

Seems jacko has had his feet under the table too long now,we've never looked like winning anything major while in charge,doesn't appear to have any motivational skills,just appears happy to trundle on and go with the flow,apparently he's a specialist in rules and regulations,when in fact all he seems to specialise in is failure,nice guy granted but maybe that's the problem

[IronScorpion 1,407]

 

If I'm not mistaken Olga, your ht leaders have to be your top 3 in the averages going, best, next best and next best, as Campton doesn't have a better average than Proctor he cant be No3 same as he doesn't have a better average than Jorgensen so cant go to five?

 

Best position for Campo would be four with Williamson going in at two, the problem we have are the misfiring reserves, we dont have anyone to cover poor team performers so we end up with potentially several weak heats relying on ht leaders to just.... win basically?

 

Last I heard it was Jacko's call for riding order so, maybe drop him a line, see if that works!!

 

As for the end of the season, if we run out of time for getting the fixtures done for the play offs, and miss out, even if we could qualify, you'll have several meaningless meetings to race that could have pushed us up the table to that possible top four position but counting toward absolutely nothing coz someone else got there first and we were too late for the party, who's going to watch those?

 

 

18.8 TEAM LINE-UPS

a)The Top rider (by MA) must ride at #1.

b)The 2nd to 5th riders (by MA) can ride in any position #2 – #5.

c)The 6th rider (by MA) must ride at #6)

d)The 7th rider (by MA)must ride at #7

Edited August 6, 2017 by IronScorpion