waiheke1 4,295 Posted August 12, 2017 Absolutely terrific point from a group of riders as a TEAM. That point would have been out of reach with the whinging Aussie's ⭐⭐UP THE STARS⭐⭐ Yeah because Holder is terrible round the NSS and would certainly have struggled to match the 2 points MPT scored... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted August 12, 2017 Yeah because Holder is terrible round the NSS and would certainly have struggled to match the 2 points MPT scored...But he may have refused to ride! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,661 Posted August 12, 2017 Yeah because Holder is terrible round the NSS and would certainly have struggled to match the 2 points MPT scored... You're missing the point obviously Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted August 12, 2017 Why do you say that, does holder regularly refuse to ride?Haha! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Argos 262 Posted August 12, 2017 I wasn't at the meeting but having seen the Photos obviously the conditions were very bad,It would be interesting to hear the views of supporters that were at the meeting and was at the "Holder Gate" meeting at Kings Lynn in regards to track conditions, which was the worst? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waytogo28 2,054 Posted August 13, 2017 I wasn't at the meeting but having seen the Photos obviously the conditions were very bad,It would be interesting to hear the views of supporters that were at the meeting and was at the "Holder Gate" meeting at Kings Lynn in regards to track conditions, which was the worst? At the "Holdergate" meeting there was little or nothing wrong with the track ( as track staff have said ) There was a little drizzle for 15 minutes - after a perfect day of summer weather. It was nothing to do with the weather at KLS that night. Only the riders know if there was a problem with the blending of two types of shale and if that really made it " difficult to turn" as alleged by Holder & Batchelor. At the NSS meeting the weather was much, much worse and affected how the track could be ridden by all of the riders. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted August 13, 2017 I wasn't at Kings Lynn but I doubt you can compare the two. The NSS is exceptional because of the excellent drainage, the shape and size of the track, which allows riders to take different lines and not necessarily get filled in by flying wet shale and importantly the level of preparation, which produces a very smooth and even racing surface. Personally, I doubt that any rider would have refused to race in the conditions at the NSS. Racing was close and relatively fast and after the first few races riders were using most of the usual racing lines. The overall standard of racing wasn't up to usual standards, although the last few races surprisingly, when it was raining again, were the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whippy 100 Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) I wasn't at the meeting but having seen the Photos obviously the conditions were very bad,It would be interesting to hear the views of supporters that were at the meeting and was at the "Holder Gate" meeting at Kings Lynn in regards to track conditions, which was the worst? Not at BV but track looked a great deal wetter than KL Edited August 13, 2017 by whippy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted August 13, 2017 Not at BV but track looked a great deal wetter than KL BUT was it less safe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulboy 169 Posted August 15, 2017 My first visit to the new Belle Vue and impressions are good, although I'd expected that from TV meetings before. Got to give huge credit to all the riders for continuing in pretty wet conditions and. as has been pointed out before, the best racing was probably towards the end with the track at its wettest! Kenneth Bjerre the undoubted start for the home side, most of the Starts had their moments and certainly gave maximum effort. Without doubt a track I would go back to. A rare venture up North for me, is there really no decent road across to Sheffield (where I was staying)? Took well over an hour to drive about 40 miles (and took even longer on the way over that afternoon!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites