stevec 300 Posted August 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, Fromafar said: It’s just pity that Eastbourne have been to Glasgow on league business, that would have attracted a bit of interest. Wouldnt it just! Having said that I reckon 99% of Glasgow fans and 99% of Eastbourne fans could happily sit down and watch together with nothing more than some light hearted banter!....Unless it all kicked off, and then i would get the hell out of there! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac101 1,201 Posted August 7, 2019 Remember the day James grieves had to get a police escort out the area many moons ago because of a incident on the track when he rode for wolves lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Doctor... 1,478 Posted August 7, 2019 1 hour ago, stevec said: Wouldnt it just! Having said that I reckon 99% of Glasgow fans and 99% of Eastbourne fans could happily sit down and watch together with nothing more than some light hearted banter!....Unless it all kicked off, and then i would get the hell out of there! The glasgow fans there on the night were fine aswell and couldn't believe their eyes like the rest of us. Certainly none of the mouth and bravado that the ones on here are seemingly fond of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SharpenRake 1,505 Posted August 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, The Doctor... said: The glasgow fans there on the night were fine aswell and couldn't believe their eyes like the rest of us. Certainly none of the mouth and bravado that the ones on here are seemingly fond of. I'm glad you think that the Glasgow fans were fine if being glad to get out off the place counts as fine. There comments were posted on a tigers fans page and certainly don't paint a pretty picture. Your last paragraph does not make sense unless you remove 'seemingly'. However whilst it would make grammatical sense it would be factually incorrect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Doctor... 1,478 Posted August 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, SharpenRake said: I'm glad you think that the Glasgow fans were fine if being glad to get out off the place counts as fine. There comments were posted on a tigers fans page and certainly don't paint a pretty picture. Your last paragraph does not make sense unless you remove 'seemingly'. However whilst it would make grammatical sense it would be factually incorrect. If the glasgow fans feared for getting out of the place then they are bigger snowflakes than some of the clowns on here. There wasn't a squeak from the eastbourne fans near them all night. Plenty of kids running around yes, terrace hooligans, not so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,028 Posted August 7, 2019 6 hours ago, SharpenRake said: What actions were taken by the club/rider? In Glasgow's case 3 riders mistakenly (I assume they were advised of the procedures - they are totally different from Glasgow's) rode off before they should have. Red lights (allegedly) are put on, riders have 2 options, go back to an area that is apparently teeming with children, staff etc etc or ride around away from the 'danger area' to the pits. The 3 riders are clearly travelling slowly and headed towards a pit gate when the marshall becomes involved. The marshall having created the problem then walks away and lets other Eastbourne people including Eastbourne riders create a riot. How were the Glasgow management meant to stop a riot? Was Michael Max expected to walk up to the Eastbourne staff/ riders and say 'look could you stop this please, this sort of thing isn't very nice?' I'm not sure how anyone can defend Cook, but it makes for entertaining reading! The problem was started by Cook not SM. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Doctor... 1,478 Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, lisa-colette said: I'm not sure how anyone can defend Cook, but it makes for entertaining reading! The problem was started by Cook not SM. Fuming that we're agreeing again, but totally agree. All this guff about red lights, riders having no options but to ride away from supposed danger areas etc etc. The pit return is half way down the straight at arlington for a start so they would have had to go back across the intro area to leave anyway. And also, forget the red lights, as Shov alluded to, when have you ever seen a team act like utter nobs and steam off on their practise laps while the introductions were still ongoing. Childish behaviour at best. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheScotsman 2,483 Posted August 7, 2019 Bl**dy hell - SharpenRake must have doubled his post count on this thread alone. Amazing since he wasn't even at the meeting. C. Cook is obviously the most guilty - no argument. Others have some level of guilt e.g. Kennett. But the marshall was trying to do his job and pointed to Cook to go one way but when Cook didn't he then tried to shuffle backwards and got hit by the bike and then the rider, so the marshall was deffo not guilty or responsible. TheScotsman - the voice of reason and justice. 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MD 1,307 Posted August 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, TheScotsman said: Bl**dy hell - SharpenRake must have doubled his post count on this thread alone. Amazing since he wasn't even at the meeting. C. Cook is obviously the most guilty - no argument. Others have some level of guilt e.g. Kennett. But the marshall was trying to do his job and pointed to Cook to go one way but when Cook didn't he then tried to shuffle backwards and got hit by the bike and then the rider, so the marshall was deffo not guilty or responsible. TheScotsman - the voice of reason and justice. Were you at the meeting or double standards? #justasking 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,362 Posted August 7, 2019 7 hours ago, SharpenRake said: What actions were taken by the club/rider? In Glasgow's case 3 riders mistakenly (I assume they were advised of the procedures - they are totally different from Glasgow's) rode off before they should have. Red lights (allegedly) are put on, riders have 2 options, go back to an area that is apparently teeming with children, staff etc etc or ride around away from the 'danger area' to the pits. The 3 riders are clearly travelling slowly and headed towards a pit gate when the marshall becomes involved. The marshall having created the problem then walks away and lets other Eastbourne people including Eastbourne riders create a riot. How were the Glasgow management meant to stop a riot? Was Michael Max expected to walk up to the Eastbourne staff/ riders and say 'look could you stop this please, this sort of thing isn't very nice?' Jackanory 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SharpenRake 1,505 Posted August 7, 2019 41 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: I'm not sure how anyone can defend Cook, but it makes for entertaining reading! The problem was started by Cook not SM. Another that can't understand what is being said but just wants to have a go at Cook, surprising for a poo le fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old bob at herne bay 828 Posted August 7, 2019 Well now I have seen the video - storm in a teacup. No idea what the flag marshall was playing at - does he no know that speedway bikes have no brakes ? Cook looked caught in two minds how to avoid the marshall but the marshall seemed intent on committing suicide. Needs further training. Then some silly so and so in black shirt and trousers with a beard comes running up to Craig Cook, a rider in helmet and full racegear and throws a punch. Lucky he didnt break his hand - crash helmets are very hard. I then see two Eastbourne riders numbers 1 and 7 I think come dashing down the track to join in - what was that all about ???? Wasn't as good I was expecting to be honest - better action when Wolves were visitors years ago. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,028 Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, SharpenRake said: Another that can't understand what is being said but just wants to have a go at Cook, surprising for a poo le fan Yes, you are trying to pin it on the SM, as Cook 'started' on the SM, there is only one person who instigated it. He often gets boo'd at Poole, so def not a fave down here! Edit- But yes as a Poole fan I have no reason to defend Eastbourne! Edited August 7, 2019 by lisa-colette 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Doctor... 1,478 Posted August 7, 2019 25 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: Well now I have seen the video - storm in a teacup. Then some silly so and so in black shirt and trousers with a beard comes running up to Craig Cook, a rider in helmet and full racegear and throws a punch. Lucky he didnt break his hand - crash helmets are very hard. Might be worth a second watch - it's Paul Dugard apparently who approaches Cook and mouths off in his face. Cook throws the first punch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted August 7, 2019 It really is quite simple. Glasgow, led by Cook, pushed off early, no doubt as a way of a bit of spiteful get back at the digs offered over the mic by Eastbourne. THAT should have been the end of it with perhaps a warning to Cook and the other riders. Cook was clearly leaving the track, as you do when the red flag is shown on the parade until the marshal instigated the next incident by needlessly and recklessly stepping in front of Cook. Cook responded, a bit of argy bargy and what would have been the end of it... Until Paul Dugard then takes it upon himself to escalate things further and charge up to Cook and stick his face right into him, no idea what was said, but that caused Cook to throw the first punch. Nobody comes out of it with any credit, but effectively the 'incidents' all ended and were started again by different protagonists. It may not seem savory but reality is, it's great for speedway. Absolutely fantastic in fact. Who wants to miss the next time Cook/Glasgow come to Eastbourne, or indeed even when Eastbourne visit Glasgow next? 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
