JessicaJones 15 Posted July 9, 2022 Hi @mikebv You’re probably right but I have sat through some long council planning meetings at which the stadium development has been discussed and all the councillors seemed to be very passionate about wanting to keep the speedway going. (The local MP has said the same but I don’t think he cares about very much other than his own career.) The councillors have all argued that speedway is very important to Swindon. You have a good point though about the dwindling spectator numbers potentially being used as an excuse not to progress with the stadium build. But I doubt many councillors would come out and say publicly that they would prioritise the house building over the speedway track. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,030 Posted July 9, 2022 8 hours ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: I really want to see Poole continue well in to the future unlike some I have a soft spot for the pirates. I also really want to see speedways survival & for it to grow. I fear the issue for Poole is while it's the town's premium sport & has the support of the council, the council might decide to take the money from a developer rather than take a risk that speedway will still be around in 5 to 10 years. That as I see it is the major issue the rate of decline in attendance figures coupled with the amount of track closures doesn't make speedway seem like a good medium term risk. You make some very good points there! I guess all you can so is put pressure on the council that it is wanted to stay in the town and hope that they agree! I don't think The Ford's will let it go without a fight though. So if they can't save it, I don't think anyone else can imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted July 10, 2022 20 hours ago, JessicaJones said: Hi @Technik I think I’ve answered most of your questions about greyhound racing in previous posts. On the question of whether greyhounds would be bred if not raced, greyhounds as a breed have been around for 1,000s of years. They have only been raced in this country for less than a hundred so the chances that they would die out as a breed are slim. I also had this discussion with Baiden on a previous few posts about the number of greyhounds that are bred for the industry and then discarded as wastage, either before, during or after their racing lives. Whilst they are used as commodities, they will always - sadly - be abused. Abuse in the industry is rife but of course that’s not the picture that the tracks want people to see when they visit. These questions are all addressed on our website-Stop Swindon Greyhound Racing-under FAQs if you wanted to have a look. I accept the point about the two tracks working well together but the fact is that the economic case for greyhound racing is waning. For Gaming International, it is not a profitable business and my argument has always been that to rely on greyhound racing would be to hasten the end of the speedway in Swindon, not keep it going. Spectator numbers at tracks are now very low as the public doesn’t support it in large numbers anymore and the BAGS racing money doesn’t seem to cover the running costs. Far better for GI to diversify in order to support the speedway. Suspect it is too late now though. A number of people have told you already but you are still banging the anti-greyhound agenda on a speedway forum. While you may be passionate about that subject, it is hardly a topic for this forum. We want Swindon Speedway back and that means having the dogs too - as it has been for most of the last 50 years! If you want to talk about speedway then please do but keep your anti-greyhound agenda to yourself please as you have already had more pages on the subject than I care to read! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JessicaJones 15 Posted July 10, 2022 Hi @Steve0 Thanks for your message. Have you read any of my posts? My point has been that relying on the greyhound racing will mean the end of the speedway as greyhound racing is not profitable for Gaming International. I have made that point several times and that was the basis of our group reaching out to work with the speedway fans. Have a look at what happened to Wallyford Stadium. A half built stadium for years - started as a condition for further development of the site - until the company claimed that greyhound racing was no longer viable (as it is not for GI Ltd too). All the best JJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruckerroo 792 Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) Take your greyhound conspiracy theories to another forum ffs Edited July 10, 2022 by ruckerroo 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JessicaJones 15 Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) Hi @ruckerroo Have a look at the Gaming International accounts to see what the company’s profits/losses are. They are all available on the Companies House website. Whether you agree that greyhound racing is cruel or not, you will see that the company is not making a profit from the racing. They are only making a profit from selling off land on the site. The company has also bought up four previous greyhound/speedway sites and closed four tracks. I am not sure what you consider to be a conspiracy. Best wishes JJ Edited July 10, 2022 by JessicaJones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted July 10, 2022 On 7/9/2022 at 3:22 PM, JessicaJones said: Hi @Technik I think I’ve answered most of your questions about greyhound racing in previous posts. On the question of whether greyhounds would be bred if not raced, greyhounds as a breed have been around for 1,000s of years. They have only been raced in this country for less than a hundred so the chances that they would die out as a breed are slim. I also had this discussion with Baiden on a previous few posts about the number of greyhounds that are bred for the industry and then discarded as wastage, either before, during or after their racing lives. Whilst they are used as commodities, they will always - sadly - be abused. Abuse in the industry is rife but of course that’s not the picture that the tracks want people to see when they visit. These questions are all addressed on our website-Stop Swindon Greyhound Racing-under FAQs if you wanted to have a look. I accept the point about the two tracks working well together but the fact is that the economic case for greyhound racing is waning. For Gaming International, it is not a profitable business and my argument has always been that to rely on greyhound racing would be to hasten the end of the speedway in Swindon, not keep it going. Spectator numbers at tracks are now very low as the public doesn’t support it in large numbers anymore and the BAGS racing money doesn’t seem to cover the running costs. Far better for GI to diversify in order to support the speedway. Suspect it is too late now though. Who would Breed Greyhounds for Pets etc.? the answer is no one... I hate it when people use example of bad practice and put everyone in the same basket ..The majority of Greyhounds are well look after.. You then go about supporters not following the sport and not making money but you then support speedway that has the same problem . All your points never make any sense. All your looking to do is to get support from speedway fans for your group as you can't get enough yourself .. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted July 10, 2022 10 hours ago, JessicaJones said: Hi @ruckerroo Have a look at the Gaming International accounts to see what the company’s profits/losses are. They are all available on the Companies House website. Whether you agree that greyhound racing is cruel or not, you will see that the company is not making a profit from the racing. They are only making a profit from selling off land on the site. The company has also bought up four previous greyhound/speedway sites and closed four tracks. I am not sure what you consider to be a conspiracy. Best wishes JJ If they are selling off the land what would it matter if Greyhound Racing was banned or not.. Still not sure how this would help speedway . If really cared about Greyhounds you would want the houses to be built on site . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JessicaJones 15 Posted July 11, 2022 Hi Orion I can see that you’ve posted messages in response but I have muted you so no idea what you’ve said. Life is better that way! Have a good day! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted July 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, JessicaJones said: Hi Orion I can see that you’ve posted messages in response but I have muted you so no idea what you’ve said. Life is better that way! Have a good day! It's quite clear you not done that at all. That is the problem with people like you who have to lie all the time..Not sure why you go on a forum if can't take an opinion that is not the same as yours or be challenged on the garbage and lies that you speak.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,030 Posted July 22, 2022 MP Justin Tomlinson has tweeted about chasing updates on stadium 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wessexbobcat 13 Posted July 22, 2022 The owners of Swindon don’t care about the dogs or the speedway.Look at there history, all they do is buy up stadiums and build on them.Every track they get involved with ends up as houses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted July 22, 2022 4 hours ago, lisa-colette said: MP Justin Tomlinson has tweeted about chasing updates on stadium He just repeats the same thing time and time again . its means nothing .. Sadly there are still stupid Swindon fans who after all this time still like his total cop out . The bottom line here he's play a blinder . Him and Sbc have got the houses built and at the same time he got the fans of his back and on his side buy saying that a stadium was going to be build that he could never guarantee and then blame Gaming when of course it never happened . Its amazing how gullible Swindon fans are . 8 years of Total lies but still they are getting fooled and get angry when told so 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thecoombdog 2,367 Posted July 25, 2022 On 7/22/2022 at 10:25 PM, orion said: He just repeats the same thing time and time again . its means nothing .. Sadly there are still stupid Swindon fans who after all this time still like his total cop out . The bottom line here he's play a blinder . Him and Sbc have got the houses built and at the same time he got the fans of his back and on his side buy saying that a stadium was going to be build that he could never guarantee and then blame Gaming when of course it never happened . Its amazing how gullible Swindon fans are . 8 years of Total lies but still they are getting fooled and get angry when told so People still thank him for providing updates as well!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted July 25, 2022 27 minutes ago, thecoombdog said: People still thank him for providing updates as well!!! There was over 100 likes etc on Facebook..You could cry how stupid people.are His deal that somehow he still boasts about has done nothing to protect Gaming not building a New Stadium..Why is he waiting for news - updates etc..Surely he should be the one putting his foot in Clark Osbourne door demanding meetings answers etc . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
