iainb 5,013 Posted July 8, 2020 20 hours ago, racers and royals said: Wroclaw 9 Janowski 10 Panicz ?? 11 Drabik 12 Fricke 13 Woffinden 14 Curzytek 15 Chugunov Don't Panicz! Don't Panicz! I assume Chris Holder is otherwise engaged? And with the inclusion of Panicz (whoever he is) it looks like Dan Bewley's Polish adventure is over unless he's named as No 16. Fricke's days must also be numbered unless he pulls his finger out this weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,723 Posted July 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, iainb said: Don't Panicz! Don't Panicz! I assume Chris Holder is otherwise engaged? And with the inclusion of Panicz (whoever he is) it looks like Dan Bewley's Polish adventure is over unless he's named as No 16. Fricke's days must also be numbered unless he pulls his finger out this weekend. I am expecting Holder to ride- they can make a change and they do it to wind the opposition up 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,890 Posted July 8, 2020 5 hours ago, iainb said: Don't Panicz! Don't Panicz! I assume Chris Holder is otherwise engaged? And with the inclusion of Panicz (whoever he is) it looks like Dan Bewley's Polish adventure is over unless he's named as No 16. Fricke's days must also be numbered unless he pulls his finger out this weekend. Going off memory, isn't that 1 point in 3 meetings that Fricke has scored now? He looks so slow and way down on confidence. Worrying times for him and Wroclaw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,740 Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Najjer said: Going off memory, isn't that 1 point in 3 meetings that Fricke has scored now? He looks so slow and way down on confidence. Worrying times for him and Wroclaw. Feel sorry for fricke but happy that Wroclaw are struggling, they have manipulated the rules to get chuginov at reserve and now brought in holder for no valid reason, exploiting a rule set for teams who may struggle to get riders because quarantine rules, they deserve to struggle 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,723 Posted July 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Feel sorry for fricke but happy that Wroclaw are struggling, they have manipulated the rules to get chuginov at reserve and now brought in holder for no valid reason, exploiting a rule set for teams who may struggle to get riders because quarantine rules, they deserve to struggle Sorry but they have not done anything underhand with Holder- the Covid rules are perfectly clear which i have previously quoted. I certainly hope that it’s a one season rule only. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,740 Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Sorry but they have not done anything underhand with Holder- the Covid rules are perfectly clear which i have previously quoted. I certainly hope that it’s a one season rule only. While they haven’t broken a rule,they don’t need holder other than to make them stronger not because of quarantine rules of which is why the rule is there, this is just typical of speedway, they are the Poole of poland Edited July 8, 2020 by THE DEAN MACHINE 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted July 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: While they haven’t broken a rule,they don’t need holder other than to make them stronger not because of quarantine rules of which is why the rule is there, this is just typical of speedway, they are the Poole of poland If the rule is there use it. Every team can use it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,723 Posted July 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: While they haven’t broken a rule,they don’t need holder other than to make them stronger not because of quarantine rules of which is why the rule is there, this is just typical of speedway, they are the Poole of poland And Gorzow didn’t sign brother Jack to make them stronger ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,740 Posted July 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, racers and royals said: And Gorzow didn’t sign brother Jack to make them stronger ? Yes and they deserve the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,740 Posted July 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, Mark said: If the rule is there use it. Every team can use it. And look how well guests have worked out in British speedway, once the door is unlocked it’s kicked open by cheats 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunce 347 Posted July 8, 2020 I'm delighted that Freesports are showing Polish Speedway now, but are there any web sites giving a live stream of the Polish matches, or is my only option to subscribe to Premier Sports (which is too expensive for me just for speedway) or wait for Freeview to show meetings? Any advice would be welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted July 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: And look how well guests have worked out in British speedway, once the door is unlocked it’s kicked open by cheats If I understand it the Polish rule is added due to corona. It is a one off rule to cover for unusual times. Nothing is perfect anywhere at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,740 Posted July 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mark said: If I understand it the Polish rule is added due to corona. It is a one off rule to cover for unusual times. Nothing is perfect anywhere at the moment. But there is my point the signing of holder is nothing to do with covid, they don’t have a rider not able to ride because of covid,they have just abused the rule to strengthen up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,723 Posted July 8, 2020 45 minutes ago, Bunce said: I'm delighted that Freesports are showing Polish Speedway now, but are there any web sites giving a live stream of the Polish matches, or is my only option to subscribe to Premier Sports (which is too expensive for me just for speedway) or wait for Freeview to show meetings? Any advice would be welcome. Loads of websites show Polish meetings- if i were you i would start at page 1 of this thread to see what info is given( mainly by me ) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,273 Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: And look how well guests have worked out in British speedway, once the door is unlocked it’s kicked open by cheats No chance will Poland go down the route of UK with regards to guests.. Too much of a tribal emotional following to accept any of their riders representing any other team on an ad hoc basis.. Such is the depth of feeling, a few years ago, ZG fans were initially not happy to accept Darcy Ward as their own rider after coming from Torun, they even had very 'unfriendly' banners to 'welcome him', such was their dislike for him when he represented Torun.. Sponsors too wouldn't allow it. Imagine Woffy top scoring for another team and costing Betard their chance to be a sponsor of a play off team because Wroclaw didn't make it? They wouldn't touch the sport again with a barge pole.. The media also wouldnt allow it, far too much detailed coverage of the sport to try and pass off something as Mickey Mouse as Woffy, for example, being shared around the league.. And finally the governing body wouldn't allow it as it completely devalues their (currently) very important, and financially rewarding sporting competition. And no doubt at the same time blowing their own sponsorship of the leagues themselves by national companies, who wouldnt want to align themselves with something so contrived.. Edited July 8, 2020 by mikebv 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
