Puma23 27 Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) I try complete squads English Dirt Track League 1929. Can anyone help me with nationalites riders ? Maybe anyone help with full name riders or complete squads ? I do not know squads Bolton from this season. Any idea ? BARNSLEY - Bob Allen (Australia) Rob ? Tommy Allott (England) Albert Brown (?) Bob Elliott (?) Austin Humphries (?) Fred Ledger (?) Reg Marshall (?) Joe Mitchell (?) Arthur Moore (?) Bert Round (?) Tom Thompson (?) Charlie Ward (?) BURNLEY - Joe Abbott (England) Frank Charles (England) Ernie Ingham (?) H. R. Ginger Lees (England) Johnny Lund (?) Arthur Wilcock (England) Cyril Wilcock (England) HALIFAX - Bert Clayton (?) George Corney (?) J. Duddings (?) Dusty Haigh (England) Geoff Kilburn (?) George Reynard (?) Frank Smith (?) S. Smith (?) Geoff Taylor (?) A. Tidswell (?) Geoff Wilson (?) HANLEY - N. Beech (?) Len Blunt (?) R. Cope (?) J. O. Cunliffe (?) H. Evans (?) R. Illingworth (?) N. Jones (?) b.d. Maddox (?) W. Moore (?) Jack Reynish (?) Jack Rowley (?) LEEDS - Arthur Atkinson (England) Dennis Atkinson (England) Roy Barrowclough (England) Tommy Bullus (?) Billy Burrows (England) George Greenwood (England) Alec Hill (?) Arthur Hull (?) Eric Langton (England) Oliver Langton (England) Arnold Moore (?) John Scatchers (?) F. Smith (?) Charlie Tobin (?) LEICESTER - G. R. Airey (?) Stan Baines (?) Alec Bowerman (?) Len Bown (?) S. Chamberlain (England) Billy Ellmore (?) Jimmy Gent (?) Dilly Gittins (?) Hal Herbert (?) Wally Humphrey (?) Syd Jackson (England) Norman Kendrick (?) George Marsh (?) Athur Sherlock (?) Slider Shuttleworth (England) Cyril Taft (England) Harry Taft (England) Nev Wheeler (?) Al. Wilkinson (England) Fred Wilkonson (England) LIVERPOOL - Eric Blain (?) Larry Boulton (?) Crasher Coxhead (?) J. Dinsmore (?) Ron Dirkin (?) G. Golding (?) Eddie Myerscough (?) Skid Plevin (?) Tommy Price (England) MIDDLERSBOROUGH - Indian Allen (?) Dick Bailey (?) Charlie Barratt (?) W. Brown (?) Dan Buck (?) Ron Carling (?) Eddie Crenston (?) Jack Dixon (?) Norman Evans (England) Frank Harrison (?) E. C. Johnson (?) Arthur Moore (?) NEWCASTLE - Phil Blake (?) Gordon Byers (England) Fred Creasor (?) Walter Creasor (?) Norman Evans (England) Alex Peel (England) Percy Dunn (England) Ernie Smith (?) Tommy Storey (?) B. E. Vincent (?) PRESTON - Joe Abbott (England) Billy Anderton (?) Ham Burrill (England) Frank Chiswell (England)) Jack Chiswell (England) Crazy Hutchins (?) Jack Lund (?) Ted Lund (?) J. Milsom (?) Len Myerscough (?) Tommy Price (England) Ian Ritchings (?) Claude Rye (England) Eric Warswick (?) ROCHDALE - Squib Burton (England) Wally Hicklin (?) Ben Higginbottom (?) Bud Proctor (?) Ron Thompson (?) Jack Atkinson (?) H. Leach (?) Skid Nock (?) SALFORD - Hen Helsby (?) Billy Howard (?) Tommy Mason (?) Ken Miller (?) Syd Newiss (?) Cracker Simpson (?) A. J. Ward (?) Cliff Watson (England) Cliff Whatley (?) Arthur Wilcock (England) Cyril Wilcock (England) Fred Williams (?) Eric Worswick (?) Stan Wynne (?) SHEFFIELD - Jack Barber (?) Clem Beckertt (England) F. G. Bianchi (?) H. Bingley (?) Johnny Broughton (?) George Crawshaw (England) Scotty Cummings (?) Ernie Ingham (?) Dusty Jenkins (?) S. Jenkins (?) Broadside Hall (?) J. Hindley (?) Arthur Longley (?) Gus Platts (?) W. F. Shuker (?) Spencer Stratton (?) Jack Sweeney (?) Arthur Westwood (?) WARRINGTON - E. G. Bell (?) E. C. Deakin (?) Speed Formby (?) J. Hornby (?) H. P. Hughes (?) Alec McLachlan (?) Tom Middlehurst (England) George Milton (?) Harry Solomon (?) Jack Wood (England) Thomas Houghton (?) WHITE CITY - Billy Dallison (England) H. Gresty (?) Walter Hull (England) Arthur Jervis (?) Hugh Jervis (?) Jack Owen (?) Skid Skinner (?) Bunny Wilcox (England) T. Withington (?) Les Wotton (England) A. Ryder (?) BELLE VUE - Riskit Riley (England) Ian Ritchings (?) Dick Fletcher (?) Bob Harrison (England) Norman Hartley (?) George Hazzard (?) E. Mangnall (?) BOLTON - Norman Dawson Fred Greenall W. Howard Joe Palastrand Jack Wood Edited July 7, 2008 by Puma23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,135 Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) I try complete squads English Dirt Track League 1929. Can anyone help me with nationalites riders ? Maybe anyone help with full name riders or complete squads ? I do not know squads Bolton from this season. Any idea ? BARNSLEY - Bob Allen (Australia) Rob ? Tommy Allott (England) Albert Brown (?) Bob Elliott (?) Austin Humphries (?) Fred Ledger (?) Reg Marshall (?) Joe Mitchell (?) Arthur Moore (?) Bert Round (?) Tom Thompson (?) Charlie Ward (?) BURNLEY - Joe Abbott (England) Frank Charles (England) Ernie Ingham (?) Ginger Lees (England) Johnny Lund (?) Arthur Wilcock (England) Cyril Wilcock (England) HALIFAX - Bert Clayton (?) George Corney (?) J. Duddings (?) Dusty Haigh (England) Geoff Kilburn (?) George Reynard (?) Frank Smith (?) S. Smith (?) Geoff Taylor (?) A. Tidswell (?) Geoff Wilson (?) HANLEY - N. Beech (?) Len Blunt (?) R. Cope (?) J. O. Cunliffe (?) H. Evans (?) R. Illingworth (?) N. Jones (?) b.d. Maddox (?) W. Moore (?) Jack Reynish (?) Jack Rowley (?) LEEDS - Arthur Atkinson (England) Dennis Atkinson (England) Roy Barrowclough (?) Tommy Bullus (?) Billy Burrows (England) George Greenwood (England) Alec Hill (?) Arthur Hull (?) Eric Langton (England) Oliver Langton (England) Arnold Moore (?) John Scatchers (?) F. Smith (?) Charlie Tobin (?) LEICESTER - G. R. Airey (?) Stan Baines (?) Alec Bowerman (?) Len Bown (?) S. Chamberlain (England) Billy Ellmore (?) Jimmy Gent (?) Dilly Gittins (?) Hal Herbert (?) Wally Humphrey (?) Syd Jackson (England) Norman Kendrick (?) George Marsh (?) Athur Sherlock (?) Slider Shuttleworth (England) Cyril Taft (England) Harry Taft (England) Nev Wheeler (?) Al. Wilkinson (?) LIVERPOOL - Eric Blain (?) Larry Boulton (?) Crasher Coxhead (?) J. Dinsmore (?) Ron Dirkin (?) G. Golding (?) Eddie Myerscough (?) Skid Plevin (?) Tommy Price (England) MIDDLERSBOROUGH - Indian Allen (?) Dick Bailey (?) Charlie Barratt (?) W. Brown (?) Dan Buck (?) Ron Carling (?) Eddie Crenston (?) Jack Dixon (?) Norman Evans (England) Frank Harrison (?) E. C. Johnson (?) Arthur Moore (?) NEWCASTLE - Phil Blake (?) Gordon Byers (England) Fred Creasor (?) Walter Creasor (?) Norman Evans (England) Alex Peel (England) Percy Dunn (England) Ernie Smith (?) Tommy Storey (?) B. E. Vincent (?) PRESTON - Joe Abbott (England) Billy Anderton (?) Harn Burrill (?) Do you mean Ham Burrill? He was English. Harn Burrill (?) Ditto!!! Frank Chiswell (?) Jack Chiswell (?) Crazy Hutchins (?) Jack Lund (?) Ted Lund (?) J. Milsom (?) Len Myerscough (?) Tommy Price (England) Ian Ritchings (?) Claude Rye (England) Eric Warswick (?) ROCHDALE - Squib Burton (England) Wally Hicklin (?) Ben Higginbottom (?) Bud Proctor (?) Ron Thompson (?) Jack Atkinson (?) H. Leach (?) Skid Nock (?) SALFORD - Hen Helsby (?) Billy Howard (?) Tommy Mason (?) Ken Miller (?) Syd Newiss (?) Cracker Simpson (?) A. J. Ward (?) Cliff Watson (?) Cliff Whatley (?) Arthur Wilcock (?) Cyril Wilcock (?) Fred Williams (Wales) Are you sure? This is not the World Champion Fred Williams. Eric Worswick (?) Stan Wynne (?) SHEFFIELD - Jack Barber (?) Clem Beckertt (England) F. G. Bianchi (?) H. Bingley (?) Johnny Broughton (?) George Crawshaw (?) Scotty Cummings (?) Ernie Ingham (?) Dusty Jenkins (?) S. Jenkins (?) Broadside Hall (?) J. Hindley (?) Arthur Longley (?) Gus Platts (?) W. F. Shuker (?) Spencer Stratton (?) Jack Sweeney (?) Arthur Westwood (?) WARRINGTON - E. G. Bell (?) E. C. Deakin (?) Speed Formby (?) J. Hornby (?) H. P. Hughes (?) Alec McLachlan (?) Tom Middlehurst (England) George Milton (?) Harry Solomon (?) Jack Wood (?) Thomas Houghton (?) WHITE CITY - Billy Dallison (England) H. Gresty (?) Walter Hull (England) Arthur Jervis (?) Hugh Jervis (?) Jack Owen (?) Skid Skinner (?) Bunny Wilcox (England) T. Withington (?) Les Wotton (England) A. Ryder (?) BELLE VUE - Riskit Riley (England) Ian Ritchings (?) Dick Fletcher (?) Bob Harrison (England) Norman Hartley (?) George Hazzard (?) E. Mangnall (?) BOLTON Norman Dawson Fred Greenall W. Howard Joe Palastrand Jack Wood Edited July 5, 2008 by norbold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 21,029 Posted July 5, 2008 Had me wondering how they knew Fred Williams was Welsh.Didn't think Freddie Williams was riding back then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star ghost 7 Posted July 5, 2008 H R "Ginger" Lees (Burnley), Roy Barrowclough (Leeds), Al Wilkinson & Fred Wilkinson (Leicester), Frank Chisswell & Jack Chiswell (Preston), Cliff Watson & Cyril Wilcock (Salford), Jack Wood (Warrington) and Les Wootton (White City) were all English riders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,135 Posted July 5, 2008 In fact they are nearly all English. There may be the odd Scot or Welshman or maybe Australian, but probably well over 90% were English. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puma23 27 Posted July 6, 2008 Thank norbold, star ghost. Norbold I mean Ham Burrill. I do not know about Fred Williams. Was second Fred Williams in that time ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,135 Posted July 6, 2008 No, the world champion Fred Williams didn't start racing until after the War. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedyguy 20 Posted July 6, 2008 No, the world champion Fred Williams didn't start racing until after the War. I don't see Wal Morton in any of the 1929 teams! Just a joke, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aireyatowlerton 0 Posted July 6, 2008 George Crawshaw (Sheffield) known as 'Clip' Crawshaw, England. My late wife's uncle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ross Garrigan 2 Posted July 13, 2008 Wasn't Larry Boulton English? Spencer Stratton was a New Zealander who did a lot of racing in Australia. He also raced in America in the 1920s. I think you'll find Jack Sweeney was also a New Zealander. I found an article in a Bathurst newspaper during the 1928-29 Australian season which mentioned this. It said he was a New Zealander who had travelled extensively and then settled in Australia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puma23 27 Posted July 20, 2008 Thx Ross Garrigan I added a few new riders and I added a few nationalites BARNSLEY - Bob Allen Rob ? (Australia) Tommy Allott (England)17.05.1909 Albert Brown Bob Elliott Austin Humphries Fred Ledger Reg Marshall Joe Mitchell Arthur Moore Bert Round Tom Thompson Charlie Ward BURNLEY - Joe Abbott (England) Frank Charles (England) Ernie Ingham H. R. Ginger Lees (England) Johnny Lund Arthur Wilcock (England) Cyril Wilcock (England) HALIFAX - Bert Clayton George Corney (England) J. Duddings Dusty Haigh (England) Geoff Kilburn George Reynard Frank Smith S. Smith Geoff Taylor A. Tidswell Geoff Wilson HANLEY - N. Beech Len Blunt R. Cope J. O. Cunliffe H. Evans R. Illingworth N. Jones b.d. Maddox W. Moore Jack Reynish Jack Rowley LEEDS - Arthur Atkinson (England) Dennis Atkinson (England) Roy Barrowclough (England) Tommy Bullus Billy Burrows (England) George Greenwood (England) Alec Hill Arthur Hull Eric Langton (England) Oliver Langton (England) Arnold Moore John Scatchers F. Smith Charlie Tobin LEICESTER - G. R. Airey Stan Baines Alec Bowerman Len Bown S. Chamberlain (England) Billy Ellmore Jimmy Gent Dilly Gittins Hal Herbert Wally Humphrey Syd Jackson (England) Norman Kendrick George Marsh Athur Sherlock Slider Shuttleworth (England) Cyril Taft (England) Harry Taft (England) Nev Wheeler Al. Wilkinson (England) Fred Wilkonson (England) LIVERPOOL - Eric Blain Larry Boulton (England) Crasher Coxhead J. Dinsmore Ron Dirkin G. Golding Eddie Myerscough Skid Plevin Tommy Price (England) MIDDLERSBOROUGH - James "Indian" Allen (England) Dick Balley Charlie Barrett (England) Jack Ormston ? (England)30.10.1909 Buster Breaks (England) W. Brown (England) Dan Buck (England) Ron Carling England) (England) Eddie Crenston (England) Jack Dixon Norman Evans (England) Frank Harrison E. C. Johnson Arthur Moore Alec Hill Alec Pill Billy Blincoe (England) R. C. Pick E. Johnston George Bower (England) Charlie Sanderson NEWCASTLE - Phil Blake (England) Gordon Byers (England) Fred Creasor (England) Walter Creasor (England) Norman Evans (England) Alex Peel (England) Percy Dunn (England) Ernie Smith Tommy Storey B. E. Vincent PRESTON - Joe Abbott (England) Billy Anderton Ham Burrill (England) Frank Chiswell) (England) Jack Chiswell (England) Crazy Hutchins Jack Lund Ted Lund J. Milsom Len Myerscough Tommy Price (England) Ian Ritchings Claude Rye (England) Eric Warswick ROCHDALE - Squib Burton (England) Wally Hicklin Ben Higginbottom Bud Proctor Ron Thompson Jack Atkinson H. Leach Skid Nock SALFORD - Hen Helsby Billy Howard Tommy Mason Ken Miller Syd Newiss Cracker Simpson A. J. Ward Cliff Watson (England) Cliff Whatley Arthur Wilcock (England) Cyril Wilcock (England) Fred Williams Eric Worswick Stan Wynne SHEFFIELD - Jack Barber Clem Beckett (England) F. G. Bianchi H. Bingley Johnny Broughton (England) George Crawshaw (England) Scotty Cummings Ernie Ingham Dusty Jenkins S. Jenkins Broadside Hall J. Hindley Arthur Longley Gus Platts W. F. Shuker Spencer Stratton (New Zealand) Jack Sweeney (New Zealand) Arthur Westwood WARRINGTON - E. G. Bell E. C. Deakin Speed Formby J. Hornby H. P. Hughes Alec McLachlan Tom Middlehurst (England) George Milton Harry Solomon Jack Wood (England) Thomas Houghton WHITE CITY - Billy Dallison (England) H. Gresty Walter Hull (England) Arthur Jervis Hugh Jervis Jack Owen Skid Skinner Bunny Wilcox (England) T. Withington Les Wotton (England) A. Ryder BELLE VUE - Riskit Riley (England) Ian Ritchings Dick Fletcher Bob Harrison (England) Norman Hartley George Hazzard (England) E. Mangnall Arthur Franklyn (England) BOLTON - Norman Dawson Fred Greenall W. Howard Joe Palastrand Jack Wood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chezzybobbles 0 Posted March 7, 2011 Hi there not sure if this post is still active but I was trying to find any ref to my grandda Harry Gresty who I knew was a dirt track rider in manchester and came across this page. I think your H.Gresty at White City is probably him. He was born in 1903 so that would make it about right. I would love any other info you might have. Cheers Cheryl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedyguy 20 Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedwayinprint6 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedwayinprint7 The above links may help your research. Edited March 9, 2011 by speedyguy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bavarian 768 Posted March 12, 2011 There was a Norwegian rider at Belle Vue in 1929. His name was Paul Sande. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites