topaz325 1,859 Posted July 19, 2009 Agree completley, Boyce as team manager should have made Crump aware of the consequences of beating the pole. Sorry the Aussies lost it with a lack of tactical awareness, letting the poles win it!! Great ride by Gollob to win heat 25. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essaitch 24 Posted July 19, 2009 Why not keep it simple and let the team that can gain the most points win? If the rules made sense it might even encourage more people to watch the sport! You really think it's THAT simple? Have you tried working out the scores in Rugby, Cricket etc? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie 0 Posted July 19, 2009 You really think it's THAT simple? Have you tried working out the scores in Rugby, Cricket etc? Yup, the rules for how the game is played might take a bit of reading, but can you imagine in rugby if the losing team was allowed to have their next try score double? or in the Ashes if the loosing team could nominate an over to count for double runs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Now Then 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Yup, the rules for how the game is played might take a bit of reading, but can you imagine in rugby if the losing team was allowed to have their next try score double? or in the Ashes if the loosing team could nominate an over to count for double runs? Exactly, I have said before no other TV sport changes it's scoring system half way through the match, imagine going to a football match, your team has scored 3 goals, the other team 2, but they win because, when they were 3 down, their first goal was allowed to count as 2!! Crazy, if you're losing you're losing. Regards to all, Alan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lupus 1 Posted July 19, 2009 What about the away goal rule?!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,116 Posted July 19, 2009 Why not keep it simple and let the team that can gain the most points win? Now you're just being silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisR 0 Posted July 19, 2009 What about the away goal rule?!!!! I presume you are referring to the oft quoted 'away goals count double'? They don't. The team that progresses in a cup tie in the case of a level score on aggregate is the one that has scored the most away goals. Slightly different. The fact remains that today a team was crowned World Champions after scoring fewer points on the track than the runners-up. That can't be right. It's no wonder speedway is not taken seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seb the Snail 22 Posted July 19, 2009 I can remember posting the same thing last year, and probably the one before that - jokers should have no part in a World Cup tournament. Why oh why can the authorities just not let the best team win? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lastword 200 Posted July 19, 2009 There is nothing to discuss, really. Any rule that benefits a losing team in order to make the event artificially closer than it actually is, is open to abuse by the teams taking part. Encouraging a team to lose points in order to manipulate the score brings a sport into disrepute. It is also an insult to the spectators who pay to see the best team win. If a sport has to artificially manipulate the scoring system in order to keep fans interest then it does not deserve the support of those fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,996 Posted July 19, 2009 There is nothing to discuss, really. Any rule that benefits a losing team in order to make the event artificially closer than it actually is, is open to abuse by the teams taking part. Encouraging a team to lose points in order to manipulate the score brings a sport into disrepute. It is also an insult to the spectators who pay to see the best team win. If a sport has to artificially manipulate the scoring system in order to keep fans interest then it does not deserve the support of those fans. Speedway in a nutshell......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i_support_no_team 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Crump was a complete idiot to pass KK and allow Hampel in as a tactical joker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lupus 1 Posted July 19, 2009 I presume you are referring to the oft quoted 'away goals count double'? They don't. The team that progresses in a cup tie in the case of a level score on aggregate is the one that has scored the most away goals. Slightly different. The fact remains that today a team was crowned World Champions after scoring fewer points on the track than the runners-up. That can't be right. It's no wonder speedway is not taken seriously. But surely the 'result' is the same. If team A scores 1 at home and 1 away and team B scores 2 at home and 0 away then team A wins despite the fact the score is actually 2-2. I can't see how that is any less stupid than the double points in speedway. For the record I think BOTH these rules are pathetic but it goes to show that it isn't just speedway that has stupid rules! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,953 Posted July 19, 2009 But surely the 'result' is the same. If team A scores 1 at home and 1 away and team B scores 2 at home and 0 away then team A wins despite the fact the score is actually 2-2. I can't see how that is any less stupid than the double points in speedway. For the record I think BOTH these rules are pathetic but it goes to show that it isn't just speedway that has stupid rules! Lupus, but a team scoring goals can't beat the team scoring more goals. The Speedway World Cup is a circus act thanks to the Joker. Shame becuase it often produces great racing, but it's hard to take seriously when injustices such as today happen. All the best Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Now Then 0 Posted July 19, 2009 I presume you are referring to the oft quoted 'away goals count double'? They don't. The team that progresses in a cup tie in the case of a level score on aggregate is the one that has scored the most away goals. Slightly different. The fact remains that today a team was crowned World Champions after scoring fewer points on the track than the runners-up. That can't be right. It's no wonder speedway is not taken seriously. Yes Chris R is right. the 'away goals' rule is to encourage attacking play especially away from home, at least where the away goals rule comes into play, both teams would have scored the same number of goals,where in speedway, you are supposed to lose races to gain an advantage. Sad really that now fans are on the terraces, shouting for riders to finish second, or let him thro'. Regards to all, Alan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bruno 1,790 Posted July 19, 2009 i can nearly!!! understand a tactical in league matches cuz of the advantage of home teams and tracks being all shapes and sizes but not in the world cup. why not have the joker in the gps just to add to the farce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
