Islander15 1,065 Posted December 10, 2013 After today's AGM the club withdrew from the league, BUT have until January 31st to rejoin. They need £20k for a new air fence and have so far raised just over £9k, so a lot to do, but speedway community don't let this club fold! It may be the team that I support, but surely losing any side is disastrous, so dig deep please. http://www.gofundme.com/iow-air-fence DONATE!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elephantman 196 Posted December 11, 2013 So the chickens are coming home to roost! Do they really need a new air fence or are they been forced to buy a new air fence? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Great Central 226 Posted December 11, 2013 So the chickens are coming home to roost! Do they really need a new air fence or are they been forced to buy a new air fence? It is my understanding that there are no more 2nd hand air fences left on the market so they have to buy a new one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted December 11, 2013 So the chickens are coming home to roost! Do they really need a new air fence or are they been forced to buy a new air fence? Move on, for your own sake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldace 1,678 Posted December 11, 2013 It is my understanding that there are no more 2nd hand air fences left on the market so they have to buy a new one. Don't think that was his point. He has a bee in his bonnet about air fence safety compared to other fences. Everyone has long since stopped humouring him with a reply Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elephantman 196 Posted December 11, 2013 Move on, for your own sake. I have moved on. Still waiting to see some independent evidence that shows Air Fences are safer than any other type of fence at every track operating (because imposing them as a requirement says that they are). You really don't have that evidence do you? One size never fits all! Don't think that was his point. He has a bee in his bonnet about air fence safety compared to other fences. Everyone has long since stopped humouring him with a reply I don't need your input Oldace; the only thing I have ever questioned is the lack of evidence to show that Air Fences are safer than other fences in every instance. This is not proven and for some reason a number of posters believe this is something I shouldn't question. Well tough really if I think something is amiss I'm the sort of pain in the b/side who will keep asking. Apologies if that offends. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) 20k? Haven't Sky just agreed a new deal? Surely that'll cover the 20k easily. The IoW could then "rent" the air fence off the BSPA so after say 10 years the airfence is paid for. Owing to the fact the IoW have 9k they have paid the rent for 4.5 years already. Edited December 11, 2013 by SCB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Stadia 1,071 Posted December 11, 2013 I have moved on. Still waiting to see some independent evidence that shows Air Fences are safer than any other type of fence at every track operating (because imposing them as a requirement says that they are). You really don't have that evidence do you? One size never fits all! I don't need your input Oldace; the only thing I have ever questioned is the lack of evidence to show that Air Fences are safer than other fences in every instance. This is not proven and for some reason a number of posters believe this is something I shouldn't question. Well tough really if I think something is amiss I'm the sort of pain in the b/side who will keep asking. Apologies if that offends. I am sure it has been discussed, but who is insisting on the compulsory use of AF's? Is it the promoters, riders, insurance companies or some health and safety executive? Obviously rider safety is of paramount importance. Just wondering? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islander15 1,065 Posted December 11, 2013 Whether air fences make it safer or not, that is the rule and that's what needs paying for! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blazeaway 1,501 Posted December 11, 2013 20k? Haven't Sky just agreed a new deal? Surely that'll cover the 20k easily. The IoW could then "rent" the air fence off the BSPA so after say 10 years the airfence is paid for. Owing to the fact the IoW have 9k they have paid the rent for 4.5 years already. That would be totally unfair on all the other clubs who have paid upfront for their fences IMO. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch958 2,395 Posted December 11, 2013 That would be totally unfair on all the other clubs who have paid upfront for their fences IMO. not really - its just credit - they'd have to pay it back those who have already purchasrd avoid that burdon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted December 11, 2013 That would be totally unfair on all the other clubs who have paid upfront for their fences IMO. Life is unfair. Surely an extra club able to ride against them means extra income.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Leslie 3,213 Posted December 11, 2013 20k? Haven't Sky just agreed a new deal? Surely that'll cover the 20k easily. The IoW could then "rent" the air fence off the BSPA so after say 10 years the airfence is paid for. Owing to the fact the IoW have 9k they have paid the rent for 4.5 years already. Airfences don't last 10 years. Don't see why the BSPA can't give them an interest free loan over 2 or 3 years though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ten years after 3 Posted December 11, 2013 I have moved on. Still waiting to see some independent evidence that shows Air Fences are safer than any other type of fence at every track operating (because imposing them as a requirement says that they are). You really don't have that evidence do you? One size never fits all! I don't need your input Oldace; the only thing I have ever questioned is the lack of evidence to show that Air Fences are safer than other fences in every instance. This is not proven and for some reason a number of posters believe this is something I shouldn't question. Well tough really if I think something is amiss I'm the sort of pain in the b/side who will keep asking. Apologies if that offends. Ask Jason Crump the day Gollub put him into the air fence in the Swedish GP and he somehow got up and won the final. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackadder 280 Posted December 11, 2013 I am sure it has been discussed, but who is insisting on the compulsory use of AF's? Is it the promoters, riders, insurance companies or some health and safety executive? Obviously rider safety is of paramount importance. Just wondering? It was announced in the spring that the SCB had sent a letter to all British promoters that APDs were to be compulsory at all British meetings from 2014, whether they were FIM meetings or not. To my knowledge, the contents of the letter have not been made public. My guess, and that's all it is, is that it has been done to prevent future litigation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites