PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted January 22, 2014 Thank you for your reply. I didn't know that your sources are confidential... still it's a great pity than even with a ( a possible) crowd of around 4,500 organizing such an event is not viable for Poole promotion. DON'T have to be a genius to work out the costs ... four teams of five for starters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
500cc 309 Posted January 23, 2014 DON'T have to be a genius to work out the costs ... four teams of five for starters. Sadly I think that points to a lot of Speedway's problems. If a crowd of 4,500 (best possibility) is deemed insufficient to be viable for 20 riders that once again the inherent costs of the sport should be questioned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,990 Posted January 23, 2014 Sadly I think that points to a lot of Speedway's problems. If a crowd of 4,500 (best possibility) is deemed insufficient to be viable for 20 riders that once again the inherent costs of the sport should be questioned. Think most of the problems were dealt with on a previous thread a couple of years back.I know i was one who was very sceptical because of the costs.This isn't just a challenge meeting or series.This is an official FIM title and as such the FIM will want some money and the riders will also very likely want more than the usual pay out for this.So everyone in the meeting will be on more than a normal league meeting,plus they'd expect some prize money for winning etc.And as i have pointed out on a number of occasions the teams have to be roughly equal in strength.That really means the Danes have to get at least one more top rider in their side and they have only a few years ago cut back on the number of top riders to save money!!!!The other two teams need strengthening as well if they want to challenge for the title.Only the Polish side is good enough to really calll this a Champions League.To pay for that then Poole or whoever need to put the admission prices up by a fair whack and also need sponsors to help out and tv coverage would probably be essential.I'd guess there are few if any sponsors or tv companies interested 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bavarian 767 Posted January 23, 2014 Such a "World League" with F.I.M. blessing should not be for club teams, but for national teams. A speedway competition similar to the Rugby Union's Six Nations tournament, featuring Great Britain, Australia, Sweden, Denmark, Poland and a Rest of the World team. Aussies could ride their home matches in the UK, or elsewhere if they want to. Rest of the World could have their home matches in any other country, such as Germany, Czech Republic, or Italy. No problems with the allocation of riders, their nationality tells them for what team they have to ride. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Pedaler 149 Posted January 24, 2014 DON'T have to be a genius to work out the costs ... four teams of five for starters. Only marginally more than 16 riders and 2 reserves for a very boring individual or testimonial meeting...Surely a TEAM meeting and an international all star team meeting at that will attract a bumper crowd, big sponsorship, television coverage, merchandise sales etc etc that would make it all VERY worthwhile...in anywhere other than a territory ruled over by the BSPA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,990 Posted January 25, 2014 Only marginally more than 16 riders and 2 reserves for a very boring individual or testimonial meeting...Surely a TEAM meeting and an international all star team meeting at that will attract a bumper crowd, big sponsorship, television coverage, merchandise sales etc etc that would make it all VERY worthwhile...in anywhere other than a territory ruled over by the BSPA. Then no doubt one of the other clubs will step in and hold the meeting if Poole can't make the figures add up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) The biggest problem is that all the 'foreign' teams' riders will want to be paid what they earn in Poland, Sweden etc, so I'm not surprised Poole - or any other British club - would think twice about staging it. Poole were one of the keenest for this competition to take place a couple of seasons ago - as were Sky - especially when there were lots of spare dates in the fixture list!!! Not sure there are that many spare Wednesday nights this year when it could be hosted?! Any 'off-raceday' could also be difficult as it would likely clash with the foreign fixtures as well as possibly meaning two home meetings in a week! Edited January 25, 2014 by Skidder1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,990 Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) The biggest problem is that all the 'foreign' teams' riders will want to be paid what they earn in Poland, Sweden etc, so I'm not surprised Poole - or any other British club - would think twice about staging it. Poole were one of the keenest for this competition to take place a couple of seasons ago - as were Sky - especially when there were lots of spare dates in the fixture list!!! Sounds closer to reality than one or two of the previous posts Edited January 25, 2014 by iris123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted January 25, 2014 SKIDDER1 is spot on regarding riders' costs, etc. Why would a rider earning several thousand pounds per meeting riding for Zielona Gora travel to England a mere fraction of what he normally receives? It isn't just team strengths where there is a great disparity between Poland and the UK. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woz01 3,589 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) I like the idea but cost would be the major issue. Brandon would be big enough to host if its to be in Britain. Also if you add Pawlicki to the Poole side named at the beginning of the thread they would be competitive. Edited January 29, 2014 by woz01 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Pedaler 149 Posted January 29, 2014 Only marginally more than 16 riders and 2 reserves for a very boring individual or testimonial meeting...Surely a TEAM meeting and an international all star team meeting at that will attract a bumper crowd, big sponsorship, television coverage, merchandise sales etc etc that would make it all VERY worthwhile...in anywhere other than a territory ruled over by the BSPA. Then no doubt one of the other clubs will step in and hold the meeting if Poole can't make the figures add up The other clubs are also in BSPA controlled territory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,990 Posted January 30, 2014 The other clubs are also in BSPA controlled territory. The other 3 clubs in this are certainly not in BSPA territory Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinMills 1,728 Posted January 31, 2014 this particular comp is a million miles from reality on all counts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted January 31, 2014 this particular comp is a million miles from reality on all counts Well, a few hundred/thousand miles anyway!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted January 31, 2014 MAYBE not quite that far ... grapevine suggests the meeting (involving four champions from Denmark, GB, Poland and Sweden) might be held in Poland... where else! Lots of discussions and dis-agreements currently taking place. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
