Fim Bans Participation In European Championships

[f-s-p 832]

Wonder what can be made of the fact Pletschacher competed in the Ice Speedway Euro Champs whilst also competing in the Ice Speedway GP's?Was it allowed because the Ice Speedway season was already underway when the ruling was made?Has the ruling not been made?Can they say he was the wildcard for this meeting?

It was allowed because the said ban is only about the riders 1-15 in the SGP, like Jesper says on post 6 in this thread. And Emil, Nicki and Martin can (at this moment) still be wildcards in their homeland SEC's.

 

If you dont believe this, show me the official FIM or FIM Europe press release that states otherwise.

[PHILIPRISING 7,298]

Do you know whether they are actively petitioning the FIM to retract or suspend this ruling?

HAVE been for some time ...

[iris123 21,096]

It was allowed because the said ban is only about the riders 1-15 in the SGP, like Jesper says on post 6 in this thread. And Emil, Nicki and Martin can (at this moment) still be wildcards in their homeland SEC's.

 

If you dont believe this, show me the official FIM or FIM Europe press release that states otherwise.

Would make it even harder to enforce if you let riders in other FIM disciplines ride in GPs and European Championships......

[DutchGrasstrack 804]

The ban is postponed till January 1st 2015. So Nicki, Emil and AJ can do both this year

[A ORLOV 8,628]

The ban is postponed till January 1st 2015. So Nicki, Emil and AJ can do both this year

That is good, but do these clowns not realize they will have the same battle next year if they try to impose it then. At least they have a year to try to sort something out.

[Alan_Jones 1,005]

That is good, but do these clowns not realize they will have the same battle next year if they try to impose it then. At least they have a year to try to sort something out.

 

They won't have the same battle because the decision will have been made in advance of the riders planning their season, rather than the retrospective decision which caused the current problem.

[A ORLOV 8,628]

 

They won't have the same battle because the decision will have been made in advance of the riders planning their season, rather than the retrospective decision which caused the current problem.

Then they may have to accept that if One sport arrange more meetings where riders can earn more money a lot of current gp riders drop out of the sgp. I hope they can work together rather than the fim taking a stance that is causing problems.

Edited February 28, 2014 by A ORLOV

[PolskiZuzel 329]

IT is not BSI who are trying to impose the ban. Far from it. No question that they would rather the FIM at the very least suspended the proposed ban for at least 12 months and to try and resolve the matter in the meantime.

 

It is widely reported in Poland that the suspension of FIM resolution issued on 7^th February was pushed through at the BSI request.

 

Krzysztof Cegielski who12 years sustained neck breaking injuries in Sweden commented on it like this.

It's a bit like a thief who returns stolen goods .. and because of that we ought to applaud him. If this suspension really happened at BSI request then it gives even worse picture of the FIM than it was originally thought. We have now a situation in which BSI asks for something, and then withdraw from it. It provokes thinking that leads to a conclusion that it is not the FIM that manages those issues but the BSI itself, which is very sad.

[Humphrey Appleby 13,983]

It's a bit like a thief who returns stolen goods .. and because of that we ought to applaud him. If this suspension really happened at BSI request then it gives even worse picture of the FIM than it was originally thought.

How does it suggest that? FIM may have decided to introduce something, and BSI asked them to reconsider.

 

BSI may well be involved in making decisions about the SGP - it would be naive to believe otherwise - but there does seem to be some sort of agenda going on here.

[PolskiZuzel 329]

How does it suggest that? ...

 

... there does seem to be some sort of agenda going on here.

 

It looks that way... if you believe what people write on the net :-)

 

I'm just an observer and sometimes a messenger.

But from what I read in the Polish media it is clear to see that the BSI does not have a good name over there. For a number of reasons, whether they are true or not, I don't know. This picture ( true of false) has been painted for some time now, especially since the emergence of OneSport and their SEC. It alleges that the BSI have done nothing for the development of speedway, that it practises favouritism, among other things. As the latest example, the case of "Bomber" Harris is often brought up. Anyway, it is something that would need a lot of time and proverbial ink to explain.

[Humphrey Appleby 13,983]

It alleges that the BSI have done nothing for the development of speedway, that it practises favouritism, among other things. As the latest example, the case of "Bomber" Harris is often brought up.

It's a fair point to discuss what BSI have done for speedway because I'd certainly agree they're not everything they're cracked up to be.

 

With respect to Harris though, I'm sure many British fans were also frustrated to see him included year-after-year.

 

It's perfectly obvious why he was there though. Britain is still one of the 'big three' speedway markets and probably generated significant television revenues, so there needed to be local interest.

 

I doubt he was selected because BSI are a 'British' company, and I'm sure if the situation were reversed, a Polish version of Harris would be getting the gig.

[waiheke1 4,295]

As happenned throughout the 80s where 5 spots were reserved for (with a handful of exceptions) sub standard riders from the continental qualifying round.

[Bavarian 769]

The real cause of this unholy "war" between IMG/BSI and OneSport is in the recent restructuring of the FIM and its respective continental sub-organisations such as the FIM Europe (formerly the UEM). Competencies wre not clearly defined before and the FIM could not accept that FIM Europe, at a lower level, could sell a quite similar product, the SEC, at a ridiculously low price to OneSport, while BSI/IMG had to pay the FIM a seven-figure sum each year for the exclusive rights on the SGP and SWC.

 

FIM had to act to protect their paying customer and make sure of the exclusiveness of the product SGP/SWC.

 

FIM are rather furious with what certain people at UEM / FIM Europe have done and have now made it clear what their competencies actually are. FIM Europe can not operate at the same level (world level) as the FIM. With a European centred sport like speedway this is a problem. This had not been made clear enough in the past and has unfortunately led to the current situation with BSI/IMG and OneSport both having bought the rights for what would in effect be a rather similar competiton, the FIM's World Championship SGP and the FIM Europe's European Championship SEC.

 

 

 

This is of course a ridiculous situation and the FIm have now found a very sensible solution to this.

[Humphrey Appleby 13,983]

FIM are rather furious with what certain people at UEM / FIM Europe have done and have now made it clear what their competencies actually are.

FIM Europe's competencies are to run European Championships, which is what they've done. Presumably they can run those as single or multi-round events, so in one sense they haven't done anything wrong.

 

The problem is that speedway is a Euro-centric sport, so any European competition is invariably going to involve much the same riders as World Championships. That the FIM didn't think of that in advance says much about it's own (in)competencies.

[screm 8,069]

So to avoid the same mess next winter the FIM had better come up with a way of taken SGP around the World, and find two or three wealthy sponsors while their at it.