Ghostwalker 1,859 Posted September 14, 2014 September 20th. Start list was just published by FIM Ballot N° Rider FMN Country 1 Chris Harris ACU Great Britain 2 Kenneth Bjerre DMU Denmark 3 (Wild Card) Nicolas Covatti FMI Italy 4. Cameron Woodward MA Australia 5 Hans Andersen DMU Denmark 6 Linus Sundstrom SVEMO Sweden 7 Maciej Janowski PZM Poland 8 Mads Korneliussen DMU Denmark 9 Matej Zagar AMZS Slovenia 10 Janusz Kolodziej PZMPoland 11 (Wild Card) Mattia Carpanese FMI Italy 12 Peter Kildemand DMU Denmark 13 Tomas H. Jonasson SVEMO Sweden 14 Przemyslaw Pawlicki PZM Poland 15 Jason Doyle MA Australia 16 Nicolai Klindt DMU Denmark 17 (Reserve) Martin Smolinski DMSB Germany 18 (Reserve) Oliver Berntzon SVEMO Sweden do you have a link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,736 Posted September 14, 2014 do you have a link?I just brought your post nearer the last page-sorry for the confusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New Science 1,059 Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) WION the Swedish ChampionshipWow ! won world u21 NO won world cup NO won a GP NO SWEDISH YES ! maybe that's why he is 'almost certain' for a wild card ! Edited September 14, 2014 by New Science Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,736 Posted September 15, 2014 Wow ! won world u21 NO won world cup NO won a GP NO SWEDISH YES ! maybe that's why he is 'almost certain' for a wild card ! I f you read Phil`s post again, he says he a certaintity IF AJ or lindgren do not qualify by right in the top 8. which in my view is a fair enough statement as BSI/FIM have a history of wanting 2 Swedes in the series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OveFundinFan 4,143 Posted September 15, 2014 I can remember World Finals with no or next to no British participation, but they still drew massive gates. But...would 40,000 go to Cardiff if there was no British interest?. I agree each GP should field the top 15 or better still top 16 riders, but in all honesty in the "good old days" there was never a World Final which tracked the World's top 16. I would, but I cant speak for the other 39,998 I want to see the top 15 riders (plus a wild card) in the world ride. Sadly, this year, nor last year, are the top riders in the world in the GP's. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
customhouseregular 1,651 Posted September 15, 2014 I would, but I cant speak for the other 39,998 I want to see the top 15 riders (plus a wild card) in the world ride. Sadly, this year, nor last year, are the top riders in the world in the GP's. In the history of speedway it's a sad truism that we don't always get what we want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted September 15, 2014 I can remember World Finals with no or next to no British participation, but they still drew massive gates. But...would 40,000 go to Cardiff if there was no British interest?. I agree each GP should field the top 15 or better still top 16 riders, but in all honesty in the "good old days" there was never a World Final which tracked the World's top 16.Surely the only British world final that meets this criteria was odsal in 85 (just tatum)? All the others from memory had at least 3 brits.Not sure the crowd was "massive", seem to recall john berry lost a load of money buying tickets to resell, but then carter's injury dropped thousands off the gate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
customhouseregular 1,651 Posted September 15, 2014 I was not necessarily talking about British World Finals or Finals I had personally attended. But I am talking from memory without recourse to stats so I may be talking b...s. I suppose massive is a subjective adjective but if one disregards Cardiff, what is the average GP attendance?. The Polish rounds will help keep the average up I guess. I can remember Wembley finals where to all extents and purposes there was no prospect of a British winner, but the attendance was still over 40,000. It still begs the question...If Cardiff fielded the World's top 16 and none were British, would they still attract 40,000?. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DutchGrasstrack 804 Posted September 16, 2014 I always thought that the 'next in line' rider is the one that ranked after the rider that will be replaced from their raceoff. So Harris is replacing Dudek (Czestochowa RO), and then Berntzon should replace Woodward (Czestochowa RO). This is now confirmed by the FIM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,859 Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) This is now confirmed by the FIM *edit I found it. http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Starting_List_-_501-06_-_Lonigo,_15.09.2014.pdf Edited September 16, 2014 by Ghostwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPNY 608 Posted September 17, 2014 Apologies if this has already been asked, but there any chance of this being streamed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New Science 1,059 Posted September 17, 2014 I f you read Phil`s post again, he says he a certaintity IF AJ or lindgren do not qualify by right in the top 8. which in my view is a fair enough statement as BSI/FIM have a history of wanting 2 Swedes in the series.That was my original point we have World U21 champions,World Cup winners and GP winners waiting in the wings but someone without any of these honours will jump the queue just because of their nationality . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,859 Posted September 17, 2014 That was my original point we have World U21 champions,World Cup winners and GP winners waiting in the wings but someone without any of these honours will jump the queue just because of their nationality . It wouldn't be more then fair when you have in mind all those years Nicholls and Harris got a wild card each because of his nationality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mothorsen 39 Posted September 17, 2014 That was my original point we have World U21 champions,World Cup winners and GP winners waiting in the wings but someone without any of these honours will jump the queue just because of their nationality . This has and always will be the cause. Nationality trumps talent because of the economics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johno 10 Posted September 18, 2014 What happens if Matej Zagar finishes in the GP Top 8 & in the top 3 in the GP Challenge. Will the GP number 9 or the 4th Rider in the Challenge get the place in next years GP ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites