phillipsr 2,057 Posted February 4, 2015 I did take it up with Neil who described it as banter!!! In my first reply to Neil i posted exactly what I said above before being called a retard!! I would argue that Neil had no good reason to say such a thing and did nothing but prove hes actually not a very nice person 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,356 Posted February 4, 2015 Next time Darcy is in trouble with the [police or speedway officialdom (and his current rate is once every 14 months since becoming a speedway rider) rather than giving him a fair hearing and time to build a case to defend himself the police or speedway officialdom should hold a hearing or court case the next day and punish him. Get it sorted ASAP? The reason time is give so you legal team can make sure everything is done correctly and is fair. You've just contradicted youirself there.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midland Red 2,383 Posted February 4, 2015 I'd be very interested to hear what Mr Rising's views are of Mr Middleditch's twitter outbursts referred to in previous posts on here, and whether they deserve to be punished in any way by the authorities If they don't I can only surmise that it is what 58 year olds do 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 3 Posted February 4, 2015 You've just contradicted youirself there.. No I haven't. How have I contradicted myself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted February 4, 2015 No I haven't. How have I contradicted myself?I wouldn't even try to get starman to explain his logic. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillipsr 2,057 Posted February 4, 2015 I'd be very interested to hear what Mr Rising's views are of Mr Middleditch's twitter outbursts referred to in previous posts on here, and whether they deserve to be punished in any way by the authorities If they don't I can only surmise that it is what 58 year olds do Phil wont comment if it means going against Middlo or Darcy. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Jones 1,005 Posted February 4, 2015 Could not find 2014 Anti Doping Code Rules. http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/user_upload/documents/CMI/FIM_ANTI-DOPING_CODE__updated_as_from_July_2014_.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salty 2,208 Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) To be fair to Middlo he didn't call you retarded, he asked if you were retarded. Which is slightly different, but the whole tone of his exchange left no doubt of the offensive nature. For a team manager to conduct himself in such a manner is pretty demeaning, you would never expect people in similar positions in other sports getting so personal and offensive. As others have said, riders have been punished for bringing the sport into disrepute on social media and if the SCB have any regard for the public image of the sport one would expect Middleditch to be brought to book for his comments. The Poole management haven't covered themselves in glory throughout the Ward fiasco. From Middlo's initial "mitigating circumstances", to Ford "Hopefully he'll get off" to Middlo talking about "lots of grounds for appeal" whilst at the same time saying he didn't know what the alcohol readings were. We then had the tweet on Friday - "No decision till next week!!!What the hell is going on! #fimareajoke" which showed Middlo had no idea of the disciplinary process. One would have expected someone in his position to be familiar with FIM Anti-doping code so that he would have known there would be a period of deliberation before a decision was known. Edited February 4, 2015 by salty 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 3 Posted February 4, 2015 To be fair to Middlo he didn't call you retarded, he asked if you were retarded. Which is slightly different, but the whole tone of his exchange left no doubt of the offensive nature. For a team manager to conduct himself in such a manner is pretty demeaning, you would never expect people in similar positions in other sports getting so personal and offensive. As others have said, riders have been punished for bringing the sport into disrepute on social media and if the the SCB have any regard for the public image of the sport one would expect Middleditch to brought to book for his comments. The hashtag #imrickyhavinbrainfittedsoon is quite obviously rude, offensive and something an EL team manager should not be tweeting at a fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrycuda 184 Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Post removed Edited June 2, 2015 by Barrycuda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,621 Posted February 4, 2015 The hashtag #imrickyhavinbrainfittedsoon is quite obviously rude, offensive and something an EL team manager should not be tweeting at a fan. Just imagine if a Football manager had said that .... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted February 4, 2015 TBF, when Kelly was 23(?) people were saying eh was a sure fire thing to be a multi-World Champion. But he loved a drink and sometimes a few drugs. He enjoyed being "Kellly Moran - international speedway" to the ladies and having fun. He never achieved anything like was expected of him. He also then, as a result of his partying ways died a slow, horrible death at a very young age. I think the point being made is Darcy could end up like Kelly (all the talent but none of the commitment) or he could end up as a multi-World Champion. He could end up somewhere in the middle. But carrying on as he is he is heading for the Kelly Moran route BUT without the personality and charm that endeared Kelly to everyone he met - even Kenny Carter who hated anyone foreign loved Kelly! Interesting comparison made...I always said that Darcy Ward was the second coming of Michael Lee...all the talent but all the inability to walk the straight and narrow. It would be a shame to see Ward banned for too long in one respect, however, the fall out from those who support him "no matter what" is going to be marvelous to watch/read if he's banned for part of all of the 2015 season. Cassius Clay / Muhammed Ali had to stay out of the sport for a while...he was bigger box office when he made his comeback than he ever was before. A lengthy ban won't necessarily be a bad thing for the media in the long run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 3,114 Posted February 4, 2015 Interesting comparison made...I always said that Darcy Ward was the second coming of Michael Lee...all the talent but all the inability to walk the straight and narrow. Cassius Clay / Muhammed Ali had to stay out of the sport for a while...he was bigger box office when he made his comeback than he ever was before. A lengthy ban won't necessarily be a bad thing for the media in the long run. It depends if he would come back though, he may find another job, being the commodity that he is... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,364 Posted February 4, 2015 Cassius Clay / Muhammed Ali had to stay out of the sport for a while...he was bigger box office when he made his comeback than he ever was before. Yes. But he wasn't as fast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted February 4, 2015 Yes. But he wasn't as fast. He was with his fists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
