Triple.H. 1,986 Posted April 5, 2015 I'd hazard a guess that this season like many before will provide great entertainment as it has done every year since I started watching back in the early 70s We didn't have the Internet back then so idiotic clowns couldn't constantly post CRAP on a forum 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robinh88 571 Posted April 5, 2015 I'd hazard a guess that this season like many before will provide great entertainment as it has done every year since I started watching back in the early 70s We didn't have the Internet back then so idiotic clowns couldn't constantly post CRAP on a forum What a wonderfully eloquent reply.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triple.H. 1,986 Posted April 5, 2015 I try my best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,784 Posted April 5, 2015 Don't think this needs to turn into a PL v EL debate but I do think there is a clear distinction this year between the top six or seven teams and the rest, and I include Rye House in that after their start. Peterborough are too but not sure if they can recover from their devastating injuries. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whiteliner 72 Posted April 5, 2015 Speedway is what it is, a sport run by a few for the few. For me the biggest damage to the sport in this country has been the Grand Prix series. Owners and Promotors of most clubs I would dare say dont really give a toss about the fans, only start to worry when they stop coming. They make rules up then change them when it suits them. No wonder really the whole sport is considered a joke by many. As a fan of speedway for over 40 years, I find it hard to say that it now holds very little interest for me or my family. I cant see me visiting my local track again. So thats about £80 a week not going into the owners pocket just from my family. I certainly dont consider that we now get value for our money. Get them in, take their money and get them out again as fast as we can attitude doesnt work for me anymore. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted April 5, 2015 Speedway is what it is, a sport run by a few for the few. For me the biggest damage to the sport in this country has been the Grand Prix series. Owners and Promotors of most clubs I would dare say dont really give a toss about the fans, only start to worry when they stop coming. They make rules up then change them when it suits them. No wonder really the whole sport is considered a joke by many. As a fan of speedway for over 40 years, I find it hard to say that it now holds very little interest for me or my family. I cant see me visiting my local track again. So thats about £80 a week not going into the owners pocket just from my family. I certainly dont consider that we now get value for our money. Get them in, take their money and get them out again as fast as we can attitude doesnt work for me anymore. Certain Promoters try hard to please, I honestly believe that. At Newcastle, for example, last Season, Supporters were complaining about the Team and the Promoters attempted to change things - they listened. The fact that their Plan didn't work was not their fault - they were shafted by their own organization and daft Rules. It is too easy to tar all Promoters with the same brush - but - as far as I can see most of them seem to fit in to your description Whiteliner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillipsr 2,057 Posted April 6, 2015 Speedway in general isnt value for money. The PL in my opinion is the worst offender on that front. At least in the EL your watching some top riders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 907 Posted April 6, 2015 Speedway in general isnt value for money. The PL in my opinion is the worst offender on that front. At least in the EL your watching some top riders. i agree you get a few gp riders but as a package the elite is poor product when you look at the sweedish league for example that was aired on eurosport last year 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted April 6, 2015 Speedway in general isnt value for money. The PL in my opinion is the worst offender on that front. At least in the EL your watching some top riders. That's true - the odd GP Riders - beating Double Uppers and occasionally fast track Reserves. Big deal that..... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,784 Posted April 6, 2015 But that's not the case, they are going head to head in most of their races. Heat leaders don't even race reserves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted April 6, 2015 But that's not the case, they are going head to head in most of their races. Heat leaders don't even race reserves. What - never? I must have misunderstood the Rules. What about a Reserve replacement? Genuine enquiry. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,784 Posted April 6, 2015 Reserve replacement yes but rarely. They even introduced instant R/R for injuries during meetings. The odd heat leader v reserve race is no different to what you get in the PL and the gap between them can be just as big if not bigger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted April 6, 2015 Reserve replacement yes but rarely. They even introduced instant R/R for injuries during meetings. The odd heat leader v reserve race is no different to what you get in the PL and the gap between them can be just as big if not bigger. In my original Post I did state occasionally. So in that sense I was right. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heedthebaw 439 Posted April 6, 2015 What a wonderfully eloquent reply.... Nothing but the truth ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Speedway in general isnt value for money. The PL in my opinion is the worst offender on that front. At least in the EL your watching some top riders. When Newport opened up in 1997 it was £7 for adults,just used an inflation calculator online and thats £7 is now £10.60 - yet promoters are charging £16. Where the £5.50 gone? Or the nearly 50% extra? The sport charges too much, far too much (and it does that at EL and PL level). But it does make me laugh when anyone claims the EL is a con, a rip off, over charges and that the PL is some sort of great deal. EL prices are £1-2 more, I'd prefer to pay the extra pound or two and see a couple of decent riders and riders racing against others of their standard, not reserves vs heat leaders. Edited April 6, 2015 by SCB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
