2016 Sgp Swc Calendar & Info's

[Triple.H. 1,988]

They have that canal jumping with a pole always fully funny when someone takes an early bath. Almost as daft as the cheese rolling in Gloucestershire

[topaz325 1,859]

Good point, but 150 pounds for a night... no thanks. Been to Cardiff a couple times now but never stayed in a hotel there... crazy prices if you ask me. One time I drove there from The Netherlands and back on a day, better then throwing my money away lol.

I,m paying £200.00 a night for hotel in Cardiff in 2016.

It is a nice hotel though, not a chain hotel.

[Humphrey Appleby 13,967]

The Welsh Govt could ask the hoteliers of Cardiff why their exorbitant price rises had driven fans to go to Belle Vue instead.

Yes, but if enough people are prepared to the exorbitant prices, then why should the Welsh Government really care. For that matter, why should BSI care?

WOULD be amazed if SGP returns to Finland in 2016 ... lot of unpaid bills including for production of programme!

Interesting, BSI potentially embroiled in more legal action. One suspects it's also going to be up to you to get money out of the Finnish promoters rather than BSI.

[uk_martin 1,606]

Gorzow is likely to be out after this year (last year on contract): https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&u=sportowefakty.pl%2Fzuzel&edit-text=

Looks like Gorzow doesnt want to host a GP next year.

 

It seems that the Warsaw experience is starting to develop a long term sour after-taste....Ole Olsen / BSI / etc keep shooting themselves in the foot and Gorzow don't want any blood on their carpets, thank you very much.

 

Next thing to watch out for is whether there may be any future rounds of the SEC or other OneSport events held at the Edward Jancarz Stadium.

I wonder in fact if there was enough animosity at Warsaw for there to be a mutual parting of the ways there, and if that could leave Torun as the only GP in Poland next year?

[PHILIPRISING 7,298]

THINK that more than any other country the Polish fans want to see their own riders and to see them at the very least in with a chance of winning. Gollob has obviously left a massive void, Hampel is now injured and may never be the rider he was, Kaspzrak always an enigma and never that popular in his home country anyway.

 

Polish speedway in general and the SGP in particular desperately needs the new breed, now being led by Janowski with the Pawlicki brothers, Zmarzlik, perhaps Dudek and Przedpelski to step up to the plate and have the desire and ambition to become World Champion.

 

Sweden, despite their shock SWC victory, still mourn for Rickardsson and right now LIndback is probably their only rider who might put bums on seats.

 

Latvian promoters say that their somewhat disappointing SGP attendance was due to virtually no Polish fans travelling... ironically the meeting was won by Janowski of course.

 

If there is a SGP at Warsaw next year, which is more than likely, the lack of 'Gollob's farewell meeting' and possibly only a couple of Polish riders might be a serious handicap to pulling in a viable crowd along with the legacy of 2015.

 

Having said all that, from what I hear the Gorzow drawbridge hasn't been raised just yet.

[Humphrey Appleby 13,967]

It seems that the Warsaw experience is starting to develop a long term sour after-taste....Ole Olsen / BSI / etc keep shooting themselves in the foot and Gorzow don't want any blood on their carpets, thank you very much.

I think the discontent precedes the Warsaw debacle, as there appears to have been some in the Gorzow City Council that were outraged by how much they were paying for the GP, which is why the figures got leaked.

[severnsider 197]

I am not sure that there are general problems with Polish speedway (admittedly GB speedway would be over the moon if had the same attendances) and the crowds at league matches seem to be not that healthly, according to a polish speedway magazine the rider salaries have dropped a lot from a few years ago in the extraliga, the attendances at Torun for the pairs and the SEC and also for the imme at Leszno have been poor as was the attandance at Gdansk on Saturday.

 

Then there is Gdansk and Czestochowa "bankruptcy" and the continuing money issues at Bydgoszcz and Lublin

 

I think these issues are behind some of the talk even though a new deal was struck regarding the TV coverage at a much higher price.

[New Science 1,059]

Gorzow have been putting it out in the press about not renewing the contract with BSI long before the Warsaw fiasco.Seems they are not happy about the size of the staging fee and there will have to be a renegotiation if Gorzow are to remain on the circuit. Not sure there are many Polish circuits lining up to take there place thou.

[Ozrik 23]

Maybe BSI will have to be more flexible or realistic in negotiating staging fees. If major circuits in Poland are grumbling, despite the strongest fan base, then where to next for speedway gp.

[Ghostwalker 1,859]

Jan Konikiewicz head of SEC believes that Gorzow will remain in the GP-calender because, according to him, the Gorzow GP is to important for BSI to drop.

 

However he is also talking/negotiating with Gorzow for SEC.

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=sv?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A//www.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel/543981/sec-realna-alternatywa-dla-grand-prix-w-gorzowie-to-zapewne-proba-wywarcia-presj

[severnsider 197]

Jan Konikiewicz head of SEC believes that Gorzow will remain in the GP-calender because, according to him, the Gorzow GP is to important for BSI to drop.

 

However he is also talking/negotiating with Gorzow for SEC.

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=sv?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A//www.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel/543981/sec-realna-alternatywa-dla-grand-prix-w-gorzowie-to-zapewne-proba-wywarcia-presj

If Gorzow speedway have a similar deal to Torun then probably too important for them too. Torun are meant to keep the ticket receipts for GP and town pays the licence fee so if the same in Gorzow the club would have done quite well on Saturday

[DutchGrasstrack 804]

Speaking of Torun: they seem to be staging the GP much earlier then usual next year according to the boss of the German speedway forum.

[severnsider 197]

The first Torun GP was in the middle of the season. Was very hot that day

[New Science 1,059]

Read on Polish site today that the PZM are recommending only 2 GP's in Poland next year ,Torun and an other

[PHILIPRISING 7,298]

POLISH clubs not happy with Witkowski's remark ... Gorzow by no means out of the frame for 2016, especially after Saturday's event, which made them money.

 

Both Torun and Warsaw have on-going contracts. Expect some announcements about Warsaw 2016 shortly.