sommelier 1,118 Posted August 17, 2015 Well surely he could get sponsorship from other countries that do show GP and other speedway meetings he races in ie Poland-Sweden It does seem strange, but he lost a lot of money when that Polish club didnt pay him, and now he married and by the sound of it has a small boy (think he mentioned him in one of his interviews on Saturday night) You would think so, but he did say that his operation & recuperation cost him a lot of money even though Red Bull did help him out with the costs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPNY 608 Posted August 17, 2015 I watched all three and all had the same unacceptable bias. What's your point? Point is people complain that it only happens on temp tracks (presumably just another dig at BSI) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fullbore 129 Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) I watched all three and all had the same unacceptable bias. What's your point? R1- R2 B7 W5 Y9 R2- R6 B4 W7 Y4 R3- R12 B2 W6 Y2 So really only Kumla had 1 overwhelming gate Niamh Edited August 17, 2015 by Niamh 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 15 Posted August 17, 2015 R1- R2 B7 W5 Y9 R2- R6 B4 W7 Y4 R3- R12 B2 W6 Y2 So really only Kumla had 1 overwhelming gate Niamh The "three" mentioned were Cardiff, Horsens and Kulma. Last year the German track (that had a pairs meeting this year) was also terribly biased but it was still a great meeting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPNY 608 Posted August 17, 2015 Ah you see SCB, I agree with you and don't think think because there is a gate bias it means it can't be a good meeting. I think it's a shame and a bit unfair on those that draw the worse gate twice but there can still be great racing.I was just pointing out it's not just down it being a temp track that there are massively favored gate positions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted August 17, 2015 Info from the riders last year suggested that a season cost for an SGP rider was around 300000 euros. This included everything, including Elit and Ekstra maybe even Elite. Thats a lot of money, but not really if you are in the top 15 of a world wide sport. Like Emil is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratton 1,491 Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) He is probably my favourite rider, but tai is a notch ahead. The euros don't pay better than the gp, and surely red bulls sponsorship would increase if he were world champ. Very sad that he is being advised against or coerced not to enter the series I think Emil over five gates does not usually have a blip where Tai does i still think there is not much between Tai, Emil. Darcy.The only difference is Tai will more and likely be a double world champion but in his era he needs to beat Emil/ Ward when they are fully fit/ and entered i am not that sure he would do. Edited August 17, 2015 by sidney Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
customhouseregular 1,651 Posted August 17, 2015 Nor am I sidney but I'd love to see him try . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted August 17, 2015 Info from the riders last year suggested that a season cost for an SGP rider was around 300000 euros. This included everything, including Elit and Ekstra maybe even Elite. Thats a lot of money, but not really if you are in the top 15 of a world wide sport. Like Emil is. A lot of money I agree. But how much of that is "incremental" gp spend? Someone like Emil is already spending on world class bikes, has a full time agent and presumably mechanic. Surely the cost of doing 8 extra meetings can't be more than say 40k (if u assume of the 300k maybe 50% fixed 50% variable, assume 50 mtgs a season would be an "incremental" cost of 3k per meeting, which even if you double it would mean 50k extra to do GPS) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted August 18, 2015 A lot of money I agree. But how much of that is "incremental" gp spend? Someone like Emil is already spending on world class bikes, has a full time agent and presumably mechanic. Surely the cost of doing 8 extra meetings can't be more than say 40k (if u assume of the 300k maybe 50% fixed 50% variable, assume 50 mtgs a season would be an "incremental" cost of 3k per meeting, which even if you double it would mean 50k extra to do GPS) When I went on thinking about my post afterwards, i figured... - 100k for 6 complete bikes + spares. This is with top bits and PJR engines, GP stuff - 50k for a van and some diesel - 150k for other stuff and travel. In 2012 I attended a season afterparty for Timo Lahti that was for his sponsors. He said he had spent 120k during that year. Now with him being based in FINLAND, he rode in the Elite, Sweden, Finland, Poland and Denmark + GP qualis (he went all the way to the Challenge) and few other meetings around. Think he must have done about 70 meetings + about a dozen track days on top of that. Think it was 95k km on his van for the year, divide that with half so his van cost for the season was around 50k in euros. ALSO WORTH noting, that the said Timo Lahti survived from 2012 with atleast 3 complete bikes, top of the line van and a heap of spares... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,864 Posted September 5, 2015 Emil still says no to SGP, this time it's due to him wanting more time with his family. https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=sv?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A//sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/544739/emil-sajfutdinow-nie-mysli-o-powrocie-do-sgp-sec-mi-wystarcza Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratton 1,491 Posted September 5, 2015 Emil still says no to SGP, this time it's due to him wanting more time with his family. https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=sv?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A//sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/544739/emil-sajfutdinow-nie-mysli-o-powrocie-do-sgp-sec-mi-wystarcza Such a shame i think all the effort in the world should be made to get him in the series.But I can understand his reasons though,if he entered for me he is a certain winner it would be CRIMINAL if he never won a world title GREAT rider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,184 Posted September 5, 2015 If he entered for me he is a certain winner it would be CRIMINAL if he never won a world title GREAT rider. Just think of all those "Greatest rider never to win a World title" threads in 20 or 30 years time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bruno 1,793 Posted September 5, 2015 The difference is all the other riders proberly tried to win it,Emil not entering is something he will surely regret in time to come 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,864 Posted September 5, 2015 Give it some time, Emil is still only 26 years old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
