IronScorpion 1,413 Posted May 18, 2016 The ruling on being an asset is totally wrong. Any EL team can sign a rider & loan him out & never use him (eg S Stead) but in the PL, he/she has to ride in 12 meetings. Another rule (if I am right) needs to be addressed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cue Ball 416 Posted May 18, 2016 The ruling on being an asset is totally wrong. Any EL team can sign a rider & loan him out & never use him (eg S Stead) but in the PL, he/she has to ride in 12 meetings. Another rule (if I am right) needs to be addressed. Not sure I get the Simon Stead reference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
romans lovechild 143 Posted May 18, 2016 steady is a sheffield asset. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,960 Posted May 19, 2016 http://scunthorpescorpions.co/?p=5481 All the best Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinny 2,580 Posted May 19, 2016 What average was Holub dropped on, 3? Even though he deserved to go as hed been pi55 poor all season, if he has been dropped whilst down on a 3 why not drop him when he was still 7?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,867 Posted May 19, 2016 What average was Holub dropped on, 3? Even though he deserved to go as hed been pi55 poor all season, if he has been dropped whilst down on a 3 why not drop him when he was still 7?! Don't think you can drop a rider with an assessed average. You have to wait till they get a official average Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,806 Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) Don't think you can drop a rider with an assessed average. You have to wait till they get a official average I believe that is only for 'new' riders. Holub rode last year so can be dropped (I think that's how it works!!). Also, according to the Greensheets on the BSPA website, Holub has an average of 3 (which is an official average, I guess!). Edited May 19, 2016 by Steve Park Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thebaron 434 Posted May 19, 2016 What average was Holub dropped on, 3? Even though he deserved to go as hed been pi55 poor all season, if he has been dropped whilst down on a 3 why not drop him when he was still 7?! Bit harsh Pinny; he looked the part when he arrived late last season; and what with the injury has never had the chance to show. He clearly has potential and Kings Lynn in particular recognise this. Something had to give though; and the way we were set up was to have a "big hitter" in the reserve berth; Wilko now gives us this. Zdneck probably was not as well set up as Andreas will be; just a look over Facebook shows how Team Lyager are well backed. MPT will help with Andreas settling in and I expect them both to score the points we have been missing. MPT returns a far more experienced rider for his stint with Belle Vue in the Elite League and certainly around the EWR is capable of providing the "big hitter" scores to support Josh Auty. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,913 Posted May 19, 2016 What average was Holub dropped on, 3? Even though he deserved to go as hed been pi55 poor all season, if he has been dropped whilst down on a 3 why not drop him when he was still 7?! I said the same - seems beyond stupid if you ask me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islander15 1,065 Posted May 19, 2016 I said the same - seems beyond stupid if you ask me. How so? If the Scorpions sign Holub in future they will save 4 team building points yet in reality they haven't lost out on any now because Lyager is effectively replacing Holub as the 7 point man and Toft replaces Poole/Klindt. On another note, a good double move to strengthen the team! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,960 Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) If so, what a bizarre choice to keep him in the side when he was injured, wait for him to come back and get a 3.00 average... Then sack him! Bizarre IF that's the case. Najjer, just to clarify this point from the other day. Holub could not be dropped until he had done 4 home and 4 away. Scorpions had to wait until then. Scorps management wanted Wilko back at reserve. The only way to achieve that was to take out Ash Morris and Zdenek Holub, who were both below Wilko in the averages. Scorpions should now be stronger since: 1. MPT will score more points than Holub, 2. Wilko is now back at reserve, so overall team shape is better. All the best Rob PS I thought you were sh*t hot on the rulebook, Najjer. Have you take your eye off the ball in the last couple of years. Edited May 19, 2016 by lucifer sam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinny 2,580 Posted May 19, 2016 Even so, signing a 7 point rider and sacking him when he acheives a 3.00 average is baffling But then i dont see much in him personally, he cant be that good to drop to 3.00 can he? and if he is that good, whats to stop say Berwick signing him to replace bager? And him averaging between 5-6? What have scunny gained out of that, or is he even their asset? Youll defend it as its your club, but to the outsider its confusing unless Scunny have jusy realised hes crap, cut their losses and got on with it. Kings lynn rating him means very little, afterall their the club who brought the likes of kolenko, stange, wallace, jan jaros etc to this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted May 19, 2016 What average was Holub dropped on, 3? Even though he deserved to go as hed been pi55 poor all season, if he has been dropped whilst down on a 3 why not drop him when he was still 7?! The clever thing to do is to replace him when he's on a 7 and before the 3 ave is applied. Later on you might be able to reintroduce him on the 3, if the MC allow you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert 304 Posted May 19, 2016 Good luck to Holub... We've seen glimpses of what he's capable of...he's a far better rider than his average would suggest. I'm sure, given his low average that someone will offer him a chance to fulfil his real potential. Shame..but changes needed to be made. Holub was always the likely candidate to make way (whatever his average), I guess everyone was reasonably happy keeping hold of Auty, Douglas, Davies and Wilko as they're all capable of producing big scores around Scunny. Getting Wilko back in a reserve berth by replacing Holub with MPT was a no brainer really. That said, I don't think the changes significantly strengthen us, they should however make us a little stronger at home. Its good that the club has honoured the decision to give Andreas Lyager another go, they could of easily reneged on the deal in order to bring in a more proven seven pointer. Hopefully Andreas will prove to be a shrewd signing... fingers crossed he doesn't turn out to be another 'Holub'.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,913 Posted May 19, 2016 Najjer, just to clarify this point from the other day. Holub could not be dropped until he had done 4 home and 4 away. Scorpions had to wait until then. Scorps management wanted Wilko back at reserve. The only way to achieve that was to take out Ash Morris and Zdenek Holub, who were both below Wilko in the averages. Scorpions should now be stronger since: 1. MPT will score more points than Holub, 2. Wilko is now back at reserve, so overall team shape is better. All the best Rob PS I thought you were sh*t hot on the rulebook, Najjer. Have you take your eye off the ball in the last couple of years. Nothing to do with understanding how rules work - I'm just saying that Scunthorpe have been stupid! What would be even better is if Holub goes and signs for someone else on a 3.00 and starts racking up the points! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
