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Can I have your address so I can post an invoice to you for the thousands of pounds I have lost due to brexit?

 

So I am going to lose tens of thousands in the next 5-6 years to discover if I am right or not. That makes sense.

 

I really hope brexit voters are bitten hard on the arse, as I doubt the money I am losing NOW will ever be recuperated.

So you are more important than the majority in your eyes. Typical tory voter! It's what will benefit the majority in the long term that matters. I'm convinced that the EU will start to disintegrate within the next 6 years. It is not benefiting the working classes in Spain, Greece, Italy or France. In all of these countries unemployment has never been so high.

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So you are more important than the majority in your eyes. Typical tory voter! It's what will benefit the majority in the long term that matters. I'm convinced that the EU will start to disintegrate within the next 6 years. It is not benefiting the working classes in Spain, Greece, Italy or France. In all of these countries unemployment has never been so high.

 

Boll*cks to the majority. Only myself and my family are important to me I am afraid. I don't give two hoots for Fred Bloggs and others who voted for brexit. What is important is that I am not affected financially and brexit has affected me which is unacceptable. Sorry I am not a socialist.

 

By the way. Tea's up! Literally.

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Can I have your address so I can post an invoice to you for the thousands of pounds I have lost due to brexit?

 

So I am going to lose tens of thousands in the next 5-6 years to discover if I am right or not. That makes sense.

 

I really hope brexit voters are bitten hard on the arse, as I doubt the money I am losing NOW will ever be recuperated.

Funny Steve, i thought it was only a few hundered, now its running into thousands. Make your mind up mate.

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Boll*cks to the majority. Only myself and my family are important to me I am afraid. I don't give two hoots for Fred Bloggs and others who voted for brexit. What is important is that I am not affected financially and brexit has affected me which is unacceptable. Sorry I am not a socialist.

By the way. Tea's up! Literally.

you will just have to except it Steve it's not going away

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Boll*cks to the majority. Only myself and my family are important to me I am afraid. I don't give two hoots for Fred Bloggs and others who voted for brexit. What is important is that I am not affected financially and brexit has affected me which is unacceptable. Sorry I am not a socialist.

 

By the way. Tea's up! Literally.

 

Ha ha.. that's not the way you justified your argument for remain. True colours coming out now.

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1. Boll*cks to the majority. Only myself and my family are important to me I am afraid.

 

2. Sorry I am not a socialist.

 

1. Spoken like a true tory. The fact is Steve for most of us, our families also come first.

 

However, for some of us we do also worry about others; and the wider picture. We care about other human-beings; and not only white, English ones like so many of the brainwashed UKIP supporting scum.

 

2. Pity that you, and many others, aren't. Because my friend the last time that true Socialism was given a chance after WW2, we created the NHS and the welfare support system.

 

My family have always, and will always, come first.

 

But I will NEVER fail to care for, and help wherever and whenever possible, fellow human-beings.

 

And, as I have done during my entire lifetime, I will fight for the values of Socialism until I take my dying breath.

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1. Spoken like a true tory. The fact is Steve for most of us, our families also come first.

 

However, for some of us we do also worry about others; and the wider picture. We care about other human-beings; and not only white, English ones like so many of the brainwashed UKIP supporting scum.

 

2. Pity that you, and many others, aren't. Because my friend the last time that true Socialism was given a chance after WW2, we created the NHS and the welfare support system.

 

My family have always, and will always, come first.

 

But I will NEVER fail to care for, and help wherever and whenever possible, fellow human-beings.

 

And, as I have done during my entire lifetime, I will fight for the values of Socialism until I take my dying breath.

 

Socialism has some very good core values. I just wish some well off politicians wouldn't be pretend socialist and spoil those core values.

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Socialism has some very good core values. I just wish some well off politicians wouldn't be pretend socialist and spoil those core values.

Well I certainly agree with you on that one Deano.

 

In particular, the 172 back-stabbing traitors who knived Jeremy Corbyn in the back.

 

Utter pond-life. Career politicians who wouldn't know the true values and meaning of Socialism if it bit them squarely on the @rse.

 

I just hope and pray that they are ALL de-selected by their respective PLP's.

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Apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us?

 

LOL :rofl:

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An odious, nasty little ponce of a public schoolboy; who will (give it time) prove to be possibly the worst Prime Minister in history. A man completely out of touch with those who are genuinely in poverty. A man who's despicable attack on disabled folk caused many to actually take their own lives; whilst his friends in banking and industry increased their personal wealth through tax cuts.

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Without wishing to defend Cameron, it is a fact of history that it was Gordon Brown that started slackening the tax burden on the rich from 1998 onwards and increasingly from 2002 when he came under the influence of Sir Ronnie Cohen. Thus we had the situation in which hedge fund managers were paying less tax than their office cleaners.

 

It was also Brown that abolished the bottom rate 10% tax rate and put the lowest earners on 20% if they were over the tax threshold making many low earners around £230 per year worse or more off. So much for looking after the poor.

 

In fact the Con-Lib coalition raised the tax threshold far higher than Labour envisaged taking many of the low paid out of taxation althtogether. The was almost entirely at the behest of the Lib-Dems although Osborne claimed credit for it.

 

That's not to say Cameron didn't look after the well off, but New Labour especially Brown, are not off the hook when it comes to looking after the rich. Funny how people forget these things when they get on their soapbox.

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2. Pity that you, and many others, aren't. Because my friend the last time that true Socialism was given a chance after WW2, we created the NHS and the welfare support system.

 

Again, the red tint specs distort the facts of history. Labour certainly created the NHS but they didn't create the welfare support system. Forms of welfare support have been around in this country and in Europe for over 400 years, but the foundation of modern Welfare support was laid down by the Liberals in the early years of the last century. What Labour did was not to create it but to expand it in line with Beveridge Report commissioned by the coalition government in 1941or 42, although it fair to say the Tories probably wouldn't have implemented it as quickly or comprehensively as Labour.

 

It also a fact of history that the electorate threw them out at the next election and kept them out for 13 years, so they couldn't have been that popular with the general public.

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Well I certainly agree with you on that one Deano.

 

In particular, the 172 back-stabbing traitors who knived Jeremy Corbyn in the back.

 

Utter pond-life. Career politicians who wouldn't know the true values and meaning of Socialism if it bit them squarely on the @rse.

 

I just hope and pray that they are ALL de-selected by their respective PLP's.

You may be misrepresenting them - perhaps what they do know is that they will never achieve power on that platform.

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I wouldn't hold your breath. If they had names of companies do you think they wouldn't name them.Yet more project fear.

Or maybe they mean companies like Peugeot, perhaps closing down their Stoke Engines plant and huge Ryton assembly line and relocating to mainland Europe. Except that already happened 10 years ago, when we were as far as I remember in the EU, a move facilitated by EU grants to Peugeot.Losing thousands of jobs in Coventry.

More bad brexit news ,ING the Dutch Banking concern are creating new jobs in the City, indeed moving jobs from Brussels (oh the irony) to London.So the exact opposite of what we were told would happen. Indeed the IMF one of their beloved experts have confirmed that the UK is the fastest growing economy in the G7.

Yesterday showed how much some people seemingly hate their own country. Instead of cheering the great news for the North East and the UK, all they could do is whine and carp,perhaps an indication of where their true loyalties lie.They seem more interested in scoring political points, and would rather see bad news for the country if it means aiding their perverse viewpoint. It is clear the Great Remain Sulk goes on.

We can only properly judge if Brexit was right or wrong 5 or 6 years down the track.

As I said before ..if the vote had gone the other way you would acted the same way as you accused others of now ...there is the vote had gone the other way you would have been one of the first to gloat if things had gone wrong in the uk so you could blame the Eu like you always do .

 

As someone has asked you before if we are fastest growing economy why are we leaving ?

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may inadvertently do the sport a favour - the EL in the main can't afford these riders but have to have them to be competitive. Would bring down the standard of EL slightly and costs significantly. Wouldn't make the sport any less exciting in my experience. Of course the EL snobs will throw their hands up in the air 'we need our big names': trust me you don't - you need the sport to survive first and foremost.

 

I for one am a proud EL snob, but not a blinkered one.

We DO need some of the top boys over here otherwise we become a glorified 2nd division nation. There isn't one credible nation (Australia exempt and USA ignored as they have no credibility after the world cup fiasco) that doesn't have a credible top level of racing. And we need that. Just how do those aspiring to move up the ladder when they have no real competition to push them? Poland and Sweden hardly touch British riders now so will have zero chance with no top flight to compete in.

I watch all levels of racing and have had the pleasure of watching the youngest team in the country win the national league this week. Great to watch development happening however as I don't pay to watch that standard of racing (as staff) it isn't something I choose to watch on any regular basis.

why? Because the standard of racing isn't as good pure and simple. Don't think I'm dissing the NL, as I'm far from it. It's just about preference.

A PL standard EL will see further fans lost to the sport on any regular basis. Yet this is the way to go??? Beyond crazy.

 

Is there much difference now between EL and PL Leicester's line up this year really was of PL standard.

Always has been, always will be unless they alter that. Leicester would have likely won the PL with that side.

There's a very simple reason why people voted to leave the EU.

It's because they are primarily racist (Phil Rising aside). ;)

Sadly, many don't even possess the gonads to even admit it.

Which says more about you than those with reasons to leave.

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you will just have to except it Steve it's not going away

He can't see beyond those blue tints again :D

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