noggin 1,391 Posted October 9, 2016 While we are still in the EU we can not stop European riders from coming to this country.After brexit it should be interesting. Let them come, we're not obligated to employ them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hagonshocker 1,960 Posted October 10, 2016 Jason Doyle must be putting this potential ruling to test, as he now has contracts in Sweden & Poland as well as his contract with Swindon. Interesting.... Good point there is now way Falubaz will dump Doyley so it will be interesting how this pans out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,291 Posted October 10, 2016 2 years ago i read on hear that a top(ish) rider was earning around 30k a week.For 4 leagues.So take off around 2-3k for UK.Says it all.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted October 10, 2016 Good point there is now way Falubaz will dump Doyley so it will be interesting how this pans out It will depend if he and any of the other top riders stand up to the Polish clubs or sign a contract and accept what the Poles want. While Poland is paying so much the riders might just stick with it, but if the payments drop then the riders might give the country a miss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted October 11, 2016 It will depend if he and any of the other top riders stand up to the Polish clubs or sign a contract and accept what the Poles want. While Poland is paying so much the riders might just stick with it, but if the payments drop then the riders might give the country a miss. Nothing like stating the obvious, is there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted October 11, 2016 Nothing like stating the obvious, is there? Some on here need it stated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KIRKYLANE 537 Posted October 11, 2016 The PZM can make their own rules re those riders riding with a PZM license. I do not believe they can insist on other riders only riding in 2 countries.... Other than threatening to release them from their polish contract. Take N K iversen ..lives in Britain and can only ride in Poland and Denmark if he abides by the Polish threat It is not likely but a Polish rider could technically ride on a British license but would probably be then banned from riding in Poland. Simon Wigg rode on a Dutch license for a few years !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted October 12, 2016 Here's the latest on the Poles dictating to the World if league speedway. If they go ahead with this, knowing how it will hit British speedway, I would hope that British fans will boycott Polish speedway of every sort in 2017? http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/636973/jest-decyzja-w-sprawie-ograniczenia-liczby-lig-dla-zawodnikow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perton Wolf 396 Posted October 12, 2016 Here's the latest on the Poles dictating to the World if league speedway. If they go ahead with this, knowing how it will hit British speedway, I would hope that British fans will boycott Polish speedway of every sort in 2017? http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/636973/jest-decyzja-w-sprawie-ograniczenia-liczby-lig-dla-zawodnikow I thought it was only the Polish league and one other league that riders could ride in. That article seems to suggest 3 league - your national one, Polish top league and another foreign league. Can't see the Danes being too pleased with that though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted October 12, 2016 And you have the give the Polish league priority. We need to get together with every other league and agree not to sign any rider signed to a Polish club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Thumper 528 Posted October 12, 2016 Here's the latest on the Poles dictating to the World if league speedway. If they go ahead with this, knowing how it will hit British speedway, I would hope that British fans will boycott Polish speedway of every sort in 2017? http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/636973/jest-decyzja-w-sprawie-ograniczenia-liczby-lig-dla-zawodnikow I already do. British and Commonwealth riders rule, OK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
INCOGNITO 357 Posted October 12, 2016 Good point there is now way Falubaz will dump Doyley so it will be interesting how this pans out Will be more interesting to see if they tell him he has no rides unless he drops one of the other leagues All Polish tracks appear to be standing together on this and like it or not, they tell the riders what to do unlike here where riders dictate. There is a bit of a concession being put forward by the Polish clubs, allowing a rider to ride in two leagues alongside his national league which would mean Polish riders can ride in two other leagues and it helps riders like Iversen, Pedersen, Kildemand etc from Denmark who can still do Sweden and Poland alongside Danish meetings which they would be expected to do by their body. Where that leaves Australian or Slovenian riders like Doyle, Zagar, Masters etc who don't really have a league to ride in, then maybe they will ride on a British ACU licence to make Britain their national choice or a PZM licence to make Poland their home choice ? 2 years ago i read on hear that a top(ish) rider was earning around 30k a week.For 4 leagues.So take off around 2-3k for UK.Says it all.. All contracts are different but Sweden are roughly double what Britain pays and Poland double what Sweden pays and a top rider in Britain can look at three to four grand a night here but the 30k figure you may have heard about also includes the GPs or SEC so a rider can get about one million pounds a season and depending on what sponsors pay for, you have to think of team costs in wages, parts, transportation etc. If they get most of it covered which some have had that luxury then the money is good but it's reaching that level and staying there means they almost certainly deserve it so fair play to those that make the money now while they can. And hopefully get out of the sport in one piece at the end of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,291 Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) Good luck if they do.That rider now,isn't earning that I'm sure Edited October 12, 2016 by Bald Bloke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryW 1,178 Posted October 12, 2016 There is a bit of a concession being put forward by the Polish clubs, allowing a rider to ride in two leagues alongside his national league which would mean Polish riders can ride in two other leagues and it helps riders like Iversen, Pedersen, Kildemand etc from Denmark who can still do Sweden and Poland alongside Danish meetings which they would be expected to do by their body. Where that leaves Australian or Slovenian riders like Doyle, Zagar, Masters etc who don't really have a league to ride in, then maybe they will ride on a British ACU licence to make Britain their national choice or a PZM licence to make Poland their home choice ? If I am reading the previously linked article correctly it seems to suggest that riders without a home league can race in two other leagues as well as the Polish Extraliga. The difference is that they must give priority to the Polish Extraliga and the other two leagues must provide written confirmation that this is the case. Riders with a home league can give priority to that league with the Extraliga 2nd priority and their 3rd league at the bottom of the priority list. Obviously online translations are never 100% accurate so that might not be correct. I also didn't see anything suggesting whether a rider could do 2 other leagues if they choose not to race in their home league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) It us ridiculous that the season is over yet the agm us still not until next month. This needs to be brought forward to August or September, so teams can be buult and riders can deal with promotions for yhd following season. Poland have stolen a huge march, will have riders signed up and when if comes to doing a deal riders will not be able to commit as they have signed the Polish contract. The bspa together with Sweden and Poland have to get togethr and work as one against Polands forced demands. Simple as that. Edited October 13, 2016 by Steve Shovlar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites