SCB 0 Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) How on earth did Ellis get saddled with a 7 point average? Because of his near 6 point average, which he achieved in an EL 1-5 last season. It's comparable to the Worrall brothers and Garrity tbf. He should be capable of 7ish as a second string in the Premiership. Edited April 7, 2017 by SCB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadders 4,135 Posted April 7, 2017 Because of his near 6 point average, which he achieved in an EL 1-5 last season. It's comparable to the Worrall brothers and Garrity tbf. He should be capable of 7ish as a second string in the Premiership. He won't get anywhere close to that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted April 7, 2017 He won't get anywhere close to that Why? He got nearly 6 riding all last season as a second string. So why is 7 in a weaker league so hard to imagine? Steve Worall is managing it. Charles Wright managed 9 at Lynn this week, as did Rose. Plus Starke got 7. He's at leats as good as that lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy robin 2,963 Posted April 7, 2017 Why? He got nearly 6 riding all last season as a second string. So why is 7 in a weaker league so hard to imagine? Steve Worall is managing it. Charles Wright managed 9 at Lynn this week, as did Rose. Plus Starke got 7. He's at leats as good as that lot. Steve Worrall is miles ahead of the rest from what I saw last night & his regular scores in both divisions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Steve Worrall is miles ahead of the rest from what I saw last night & his regular scores in both divisions. Yet Worrall average 6.22 last season and Ellis averaged 6.05 so there not a lot between them. For comparison Garrity got 6, Kurtz 6.15, Howarth 5.43 (with more meetings in res), Sedgmen 5.33 and Auty 5.16. So Ellis' 7.64 is about right when you consider that Worrall is 8.47, Garrity is 8.8, Kurtz is 7.6, Howarth is 7.18, Sedgmen is 7.6 (and doing ok from two away meetings) and Auty is 7.1 What sort of average do people think Ellis should have been given and why? Worrall has just started this season in brilliant form, which is brilliant. Edited April 7, 2017 by SCB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted April 7, 2017 Because of his near 6 point average, which he achieved in an EL 1-5 last season. It's comparable to the Worrall brothers and Garrity tbf. He should be capable of 7ish as a second string in the Premiership.I never see him averaging that, where as a rider we let go in Sedgeman might of. Yet Worrall average 6.22 last season and Ellis averaged 6.05 so there not a lot between them. For comparison Garrity got 6, Kurtz 6.15, Howarth 5.43 (with more meetings in res), Sedgmen 5.33 and Auty 5.16. So Ellis' 7.64 is about right when you consider that Worrall is 8.47, Garrity is 8.8, Kurtz is 7.6, Howarth is 7.18, Sedgmen is 7.6 (and doing ok from two away meetings) and Auty is 7.1 What sort of average do people think Ellis should have been given and why? Worrall has just started this season in brilliant form, which is brilliant. Worrall for me is a step ahead last night his brilliant ht1 win over Doyle was awesome and as someone else said he is good in both leagues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Ellis' average makes him a heat leader for Swindon. Averages were supposed to be levelled towards last season's Premier league averages, but Ellis didn't ride PL last year so should have been looked at differently' Anyway he'll be stuck with that high average whilst he's out injured. Edited April 7, 2017 by Skidder1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammer1969 421 Posted April 8, 2017 Rye website saying Rob Branford is now riding for us against Swindon tonight and I'm happy with that but am wondering can anyone explain who actually had priority, Rye or Sheffield? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
startline sid 157 Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) Rye website saying Rob Branford is now riding for us against Swindon tonight and I'm happy with that but am wondering can anyone explain who actually had priority, Rye or Sheffield? not sure of the answer to that BUT am very glad Rob is now riding as there is no way would I have willingly swopped Rob for Ben (no offence to anyone but Ben has not even ridden a competitive meeting this season) especially as Swindon now look a much stronger team using r/r Also hope Rob is available to us on Thurs at Swindon instead of riding for Sheffield Edited April 8, 2017 by startline sid 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tocha 308 Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) Rye website saying Rob Branford is now riding for us against Swindon tonight and I'm happy with that but am wondering can anyone explain who actually had priority, Rye or Sheffield? This is the ruling taken from the 2017 regs,: 16.1 Fixtures shall take priority as follows: FIM SGP, SWC, SGP Qualifying Meetings, FIM U21 World Speedway Championship Meetings, FIM Europe U21 Championship, British Championships (Senior, Junior), BSPA Shared and Fee Events, Official Competitions: 1. SGB Premiership; 2. SGB Championship; 3. National Development League. NB. Non-Official Competitions have no priority over any of the above. A Rider must be released to take part in a higher priority Meeting, unless he is “Doubling Up”, in which case the priority for a clash of Official Meetings is as follows: - 1) The Original Fixture if there is a clash with a re-arranged Fixture 2)1st priority to the owner of the rider 3) 2nd priority to the previous season club 4) 3rd priority to the league in which the owner club is a member. This would imply that Rye House have priority as 1) and 2) don't apply in this instance. Edited April 8, 2017 by tocha 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammer1969 421 Posted April 8, 2017 not sure of the answer to that BUT am very glad Rob is now riding as there is no way would I have willingly swopped Rob for Ben (no offence to anyone but Ben has not even ridden a competitive meeting this season) especially as Swindon now look a much stronger team using r/r Also hope Rob is available to us on Thurs at Swindon instead of riding for Sheffield Have to totally agree with that, also Redcar are at home on Thursday wonder if that means we may lose Ellis Perks as well, certainly hope not, if we get a good result tonight and the weather is good on Thursday I may make the trip down to Swindon to support what I hope will be our full 1 - 7 team with no guests. This is the ruling taken from the 2017 regs,: 16.1 Fixtures shall take priority as follows: FIM SGP, SWC, SGP Qualifying Meetings, FIM U21 World Speedway Championship Meetings, FIM Europe U21 Championship, British Championships (Senior, Junior), BSPA Shared and Fee Events, Official Competitions: 1. SGB Premiership; 2. SGB Championship; 3. National Development League. NB. Non-Official Competitions have no priority over any of the above. A Rider must be released to take part in a higher priority Meeting, unless he is “Doubling Up”, in which case the priority for a clash of Official Meetings is as follows: - 1) The Original Fixture if there is a clash with a re-arranged Fixture 2)1st priority to the owner of the rider 3) 2nd priority to the previous season club 4) 3rd priority to the league in which the owner club is a member. This would imply that Rye House have priority as 1) and 2) don't apply in this instance. Thanks for that info, I wonder why Rye were originally allowing him to ride at Sheffield tonight, was it trying to be helpful at the expense of our team or was it that someone was just as confused about the rules as me, anyway reading your post makes it much clearer thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iand 133 Posted April 8, 2017 Does anyone know who owns Ellis Perks contract? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammer1969 421 Posted April 8, 2017 Just got my brain in gear and with pencil and paper in hand I think I am right in saying Ellis Perks is a Poole asset and last year he rode for Plymouth and Eastbourne so by my calculations I assume that on Thursday at Swindon Rye will have priority over Redcar - hope I've worked it out right 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedball 566 Posted April 8, 2017 Does anyone know who owns Ellis Perks contract? Poole I think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,050 Posted April 8, 2017 Can see Rye winning this by at least 10. Swindon so far look poor which is a shame as the club has its good supporters especially on here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
