Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted June 16, 2017 How do you know that he was going to lose points money? It was fairly obvious to me that that there was a different attitude from our riders once they had a big enough lead. As our averages were dependent on that meeting & crucial for any team rebuilding, what's to say that they weren't paid for the points lost in the team interest. I don't know that there is any audit of the rider's wages.Are you saying this is the norm riders throwing points away if so it is very worrying.We know the sport is in the rubbish but now with these pathetic rules and averages in place it now is becoming a joke.All i want to see is a 1/7 team do its best and entertain us not fanny about just to make another change when the new averages are out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted June 16, 2017 Are you saying this is the norm riders throwing points away if so it is very worrying.We know the sport is in the rubbish but now with these pathetic rules and averages in place it now is becoming a joke.All i want to see is a 1/7 team do its best and entertain us not fanny about just to make another change when the new averages are out. How long have you been watching speedway ..people dropping points so teams can bring in other riders Has been going on for donkeys years ..but somehow you are amazed and shocked .wake up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) How long have you been watching speedway ..people dropping points so teams can bring in other riders Has been going on for donkeys years ..but somehow you are amazed and shocked .wake upNot shocked at all does it make it right ? it has been going on for donkeys years now it is likely to happen even more than ever now with the rules/ averages in place.By the way have you ever woken up you dumbass.😂 Edited June 16, 2017 by Sidney the robin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,287 Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) Don't make it right but it happens.The fans can't do sweet *uck all Edited June 16, 2017 by Bald Bloke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DunRobin 465 Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) How long have you been watching speedway ..people dropping points so teams can bring in other riders Has been going on for donkeys years ..but somehow you are amazed and shocked .wake upClassic case was Poole when even Leigh Adams came out & said they were cheating. He recalled riders virtually calling Opposition riders past. There was an outcry & the Speedway Control Board held an "enquiry"! The only people they questioned were Poole riders & management, a bit like a Court Trial where only the defendant was questioned & there was no prosecutor's questions! Edited June 17, 2017 by DunRobin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted June 17, 2017 Classic case was Poole when even Leigh Adams came out & said they were cheating. He recalled riders virtually calling Opposition riders past. There was an outcry & the Speedway Control Board held an "enquiry"! The only people they questioned were Poole riders & management, a bit like a Court Trial where only the defendant was questioned & there was no prosecutor's questions! Reminds me of the "Joe Screen incident" at Blunsdon when he and others in the Poole team were clearly trying not to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EnglishRoundabout 1,752 Posted June 17, 2017 Reminds me of the "Joe Screen incident" at Blunsdon when he and others in the Poole team were clearly trying not to win. Didn't Poole have something like 7 "engine failures " that night? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted June 17, 2017 Didn't Poole have something like 7 "engine failures " that night? You were there too - what a night - and not in a good way! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted June 17, 2017 Reminds me of the "Joe Screen incident" at Blunsdon when he and others in the Poole team were clearly trying not to win. all teams do it and its sadly part and parcel of the sport and hard to proved and even if did have the prove they are hardly likely to act on it.this is what happens when you have a sport that rewards you for doing poorly . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EnglishRoundabout 1,752 Posted June 17, 2017 You were there too - what a night - and not in a good way! I was indeed, Leigh Adams was interviewed after the meeting and openly stated how suspicious the Poole antics had been all night with their so called "engine failures". 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cityrebel 2,960 Posted June 17, 2017 The problem is, that speedway is a sport where the promoters make the rules. An independent body is needed to oversee fair play, but it will never happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadders 4,135 Posted June 18, 2017 Anyone who thinks certain riders don't lose on purpose is deluded. I heard a story about a PL number one who was looking to reduce his average for the following season. Five "engine failures", but the promoter paid as if it was a maximum. This was confirmed to me by the gentleman himself a few years later. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobMcCaffery 2,752 Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) What gets forgotten in this situation it's the paying public who are defrauded when and if this happens. It's one of the many reasons why people decide the sport isn't worth the money and why most journalists steer well clear. The fact that people accept is part of the sport is frankly quite chilling. Edited June 18, 2017 by Rob McCaffery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny the spud 2,281 Posted June 19, 2017 Diving in football, dodgy betting on horse racing, doping in cycling, team orders in F1, cricket matches thrown in far eastern betting scams, "bloodgate" in rugby ......... i'm sure most journalists steer clear of speedway is because it's run by incompetents who think its still 1956 and act accordingly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hagonshocker 1,956 Posted June 19, 2017 Chilling? Lol how OTT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
