Bald Bloke 3,287 Posted September 5, 2018 Ford is not an idiot.. He wants to win at all costs, but the track is the worst in the league, if you go by the quality of the surface. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old bob at herne bay 828 Posted September 5, 2018 Oh .....the p.ship p.offs I can hardly wait. Top 4 clubs out of a league of 7. Maybe a fitting end to “Premiership” speedway in the UK ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uluru 80 Posted September 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said: I think the league toppers deserve it. The only sport where you win the league, then its between the top 4 of seven. Bit like the Prem. Top 10 in the play offs with the table toppers having the same chance as the 10th placed team. It's about the money. Big attendances. As was said, no-one would want to finish on top. Speedway is still a business first, then an entertainment, then a sport. Always has been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uluru 80 Posted September 5, 2018 57 minutes ago, theblueboy said: That’s a tough one, a professional sport, watched by millions, played on a bowling green of a pitch with a crackling atmosphere or amateur night, run by village idiots on a pot holed track in front of God’s waiting room. I’ll leave the forum to decide which is the best option... Not bitter, then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,297 Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Grachan said: Nobody would want to finish top if that happened. They'd miss out on a big crowd for the semi. A very true observation... And also a very sad indictment of the Sport in general... It wil be interesting to see the crowd at the NSS for the play offs... Many have said that Mondays and Wednesday are not good night's to have Speedway at Belle Vue yet I have a feeling that Monday September the 24th will find over a thousand or so non regular fans who all of a sudden realise (magically) that they can actually get to the NSS that night... Edited September 6, 2018 by mikebv 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted September 6, 2018 As much as I want Lynn to win I fear most matches will be governed by doctored track to assist the home teams. With the exception of NSS, I believe all the other tracks will be prepared generating gate and go speedway, that we all dislike. Although it is obvious why this practice is used, it does nothing to generate excitement like it use to be. The majority of the Stars riders cope well with a grippy track, but season professionals like Niels and Andersen seem to struggle. it wasn't until much later, when the track became slicker, did they join in the party. I just hope it don't ruin the occasion.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, g13webb said: As much as I want Lynn to win I fear most matches will be governed by doctored track to assist the home teams. With the exception of NSS, I believe all the other tracks will be prepared generating gate and go speedway, that we all dislike. Although it is obvious why this practice is used, it does nothing to generate excitement like it use to be. The majority of the Stars riders cope well with a grippy track, but season professionals like Niels and Andersen seem to struggle. it wasn't until much later, when the track became slicker, did they join in the party. I just hope it don't ruin the occasion.... Well i did read that the double header against Wolves was better racing in the second meeting after it had slickened off a bit. So maybe it doesn't need to be that grippy for good racing. Edited September 6, 2018 by foreverblue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted September 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Well i did Read that the double header against Wolves was better racing in the second meeting after it had slickened off a bit. So maybe it doesn't need to be that grippy for good racing. Not at all, when the track is super grippy, all the riders have equal traction, therefore producing them gate and go races... When the track is slicker and riders have to search for the dirt , it makes for more exciting racing.. There are some riders who really relish these grippy tracks. they have the ability to hunt and pounce even in the most tightest of situations, but they are few and far between. The difference between a grippy and slick track can be as much as 3 seconds faster. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theblueboy 960 Posted September 6, 2018 9 hours ago, Uluru said: Not bitter, then? I have nothing to be bitter about. I attend speedway every week. I paid to watch 4 football matches last season. Speedway is where my loyalty lies. My observation was aimed at Lisa Colette's statement, which seemed to suggest that Somerset should change the fixture because Bournemouth are likely to be home in the Premier League on the same night as Poole would be. My point was if you were a casual fan of both, which would you want to attend? I am sure if Matt Ford was in the same boat, and presented with a similar scenario, he would be a very accommodating? Let's hope Somerset don't win by too many otherwise it could be One Man and his Dog again for the second successive PO semi final... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAH 409 Posted September 6, 2018 12 hours ago, ZagarRacing said: 17/9 Somerset v Poole 24/9 Belle Vue v King’s Lynn 01/10 Poole v Somerset 01/10 King’s Lynn v Belle Vue no Swindon you were so confident Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAH 409 Posted September 6, 2018 11 hours ago, theblueboy said: That’s a tough one, a professional sport, watched by millions, played on a bowling green of a pitch with a crackling atmosphere or amateur night, run by village idiots on a pot holed track in front of God’s waiting room. I’ll leave the forum to decide which is the best option... football overpaid fairy's prancing around chasing a bag of wind around rubbishe !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,192 Posted September 6, 2018 As pleased I was with the win last night and the fact we made the play offs, by far the best thing is we have an extra meeting at this fabulous circuit and it’s on telly too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted September 6, 2018 14 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Ford is not an idiot.. He wants to win at all costs, but the track is the worst in the league, if you go by the quality of the surface. The track is one of the best in the league after NSS. Last night the trackman was back from his holidays. Better prep, no hole, passing. And more dirt down. 3 hours ago, theblueboy said: I have nothing to be bitter about. I attend speedway every week. I paid to watch 4 football matches last season. Speedway is where my loyalty lies. My observation was aimed at Lisa Colette's statement, which seemed to suggest that Somerset should change the fixture because Bournemouth are likely to be home in the Premier League on the same night as Poole would be. My point was if you were a casual fan of both, which would you want to attend? You cannot be a casual fan of AFC Bournemouth and attend the match. It’s impossible. AFC Bournemouth run a loyalty system. Those that attend every match can go to the next one. Every match is sold out. If you see empty seats, they are sold. Its just that the fan hasn’t turned up but purchased the seat so they can go to the next one, which might be Liverpool. If they don’t do this they don’t get the chance for tickets. As the stadium only holds 12,000 the tickets are massively in demand. There are probably 100 or so Poole fans who go to AFC Bournemouth every match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttons 370 Posted September 6, 2018 15 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Somerset should have the second leg at their place. Crowd will be affected at Poole with Bournemouth vs Palace on the same night! Yes, I thought they would have picked the second leg as they finished above Poole in the table, they would know what they have to beat then, very odd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted September 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Buttons said: Yes, I thought they would have picked the second leg as they finished above Poole in the table, they would know what they have to beat then, very odd Obviously they are hoping for big lead to take to Poole for the second leg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites