lisa-colette 6,030 Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, ray c said: I will answer you. the local paper called him a racist for his disgusting tweet in which it was. wont say anymore on the subject No, they didn't say he was racist. Unless you can point out where they used that actual word? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,362 Posted January 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: No, they didn't say he was racist. Unless you can point out where they used that actual word? Opening paragraph. https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/17328618.meridian-lifts-boss-in-migrants-drowning-row/?fbclid=IwAR1rtFI-He3RtetyhdmFmKDtLnY694oyP5wT7GaWqZ6GgnGYM7kLpmswLio Sure, they are quoting an unnamed source, but by putting it in the opening paragraph they are clearly laying their cards on the table about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris4gillian 1,832 Posted January 3, 2019 The last 7 or 8 pages of this thread is utterly ridiculous. Why the chuff do a number of you respond to anything the forums most famous troll posts? He just sits in his bedroom creaming his pants over your responses!! I bet he's got his hand in his trousers already after reading that The only positive thing out of all this is the fact he makes Starman appear a teensy weensy bit intelligent Seriously though, this forums lack of moderation has been a joke for a very long time and is the reason many 'adult' posters (including myself) don't bother logging in very often. Right....back to topic PLEASE. I thank you 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dj350z 2,266 Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, chris4gillian said: The only positive thing out of all this is the fact he makes Starman appear a teensy weensy bit intelligent You can't say that - that is discriminating against Starmen!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trackrat 444 Posted January 3, 2019 7 hours ago, chris4gillian said: The last 7 or 8 pages of this thread is utterly ridiculous. Why the chuff do a number of you respond to anything the forums most famous troll posts? He just sits in his bedroom creaming his pants over your responses!! I bet he's got his hand in his trousers already after reading that The only positive thing out of all this is the fact he makes Starman appear a teensy weensy bit intelligent Seriously though, this forums lack of moderation has been a joke for a very long time and is the reason many 'adult' posters (including myself) don't bother logging in very often. Right....back to topic PLEASE. I thank you Forum police alert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris4gillian 1,832 Posted January 3, 2019 6 hours ago, dj350z said: You can't say that - that is discriminating against Starmen!!! Just tongue in cheek 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris4gillian 1,832 Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Trackrat said: Forum police alert Forum troll alert. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, ray c said: I will answer you. the local paper called him a racist for his disgusting tweet in which it was. wont say anymore on the subject It wasn't racist. The tweet wasn't a good one and suggesting let them drown was ill thought out at best, basically in poor taste. However, racist it was not. It's this constant playing of the race card that caused Brexit and Trump.. you'd think some folk would learn. Edited January 3, 2019 by BWitcher 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted January 3, 2019 10 hours ago, chris4gillian said: The last 7 or 8 pages of this thread is utterly ridiculous. Why the chuff do a number of you respond to anything the forums most famous troll posts? He just sits in his bedroom creaming his pants over your responses!! I bet he's got his hand in his trousers already after reading that The only positive thing out of all this is the fact he makes Starman appear a teensy weensy bit intelligent Seriously though, this forums lack of moderation has been a joke for a very long time and is the reason many 'adult' posters (including myself) don't bother logging in very often. Right....back to topic PLEASE. I thank you Don't read them then watch Jeremy Kyle instead are you adult really???? this post makes you look a proper tool take a deep,breath eh!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRealFiend 1,109 Posted January 3, 2019 10 hours ago, chris4gillian said: Seriously though, this forums lack of moderation has been a joke for a very long time and is the reason many 'adult' posters (including myself) don't bother logging in very often. But you still log in. You cant help yourself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, BWitcher said: It wasn't racist. The tweet wasn't a good one and suggesting let them drown was ill thought out at best, basically in poor taste. However, racist it was not. It's this constant playing of the race card that caused Brexit and Trump.. you'd think some folk would learn. The semantics argument about what constitutes a “race” is really tiresome. It’s quite clear that the adverse remarks were against refugee boat people - people from abroad, people fleeing their country, whether on grounds of persecution or in search of a better life - not Dorset residing castaways, and as such they were racist. “Race” can be defined as a group of people who have some common identity, whether it be blacks and whites, Chinese, Muslim, Aryan or people fleeing the Middle East. Semantics should not be a defence to inhumane views. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, DC2 said: The semantics argument about what constitutes a “race” is really tiresome. It’s quite clear that the adverse remarks were against refugee boat people - people from abroad, people fleeing their country, whether on grounds of persecution or in search of a better life - not Dorset residing castaways, and as such they were racist. “Race” can be defined as a group of people who have some common identity, whether it be blacks and whites, Chinese, Muslim, Aryan or people fleeing the Middle East. Semantics should not be a defence to inhumane views. There is no semantic argument. His tweet was not racist. In very poor taste yes. Racist no. I have not made any defence of the wording used in his tweet. His stance as regards immigration is a different issue. Edited January 3, 2019 by BWitcher 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted January 4, 2019 10 hours ago, BWitcher said: There is no semantic argument. His tweet was not racist. In very poor taste yes. Racist no. I have not made any defence of the wording used in his tweet. His stance as regards immigration is a different issue. If it were 1938 Germany and he’d written “Let the dispossessed shopkeepers die in a concentration camp” you, no doubt, would have said that those words do not in themself, given that they do not specify a specific group of people, amount to a racist comment, but of course the context would have meant otherwise as we would know the target of the comment was Jews, just as it is now foreign refugees. No doubt also, semantics will argue that Jews are not a race but a religious group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted January 4, 2019 45 minutes ago, DC2 said: If it were 1938 Germany and he’d written “Let the dispossessed shopkeepers die in a concentration camp” you, no doubt, would have said that those words do not in themself, given that they do not specify a specific group of people, amount to a racist comment, but of course the context would have meant otherwise as we would know the target of the comment was Jews, just as it is now foreign refugees. No doubt also, semantics will argue that Jews are not a race but a religious group. The post wasn't racist. It doesn't matter how you try and twist it. I understand, you are desperate to ensure racism stays alive and indeed increase and wish to promote it at every available opportunity. I'm not, I abhor racism and want to see the back of it. Perhaps, like many, you have a financial investment in ensuring it stays alive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, BWitcher said: The post wasn't racist. It doesn't matter how you try and twist it. I understand, you are desperate to ensure racism stays alive and indeed increase and wish to promote it at every available opportunity. I'm not, I abhor racism and want to see the back of it. Perhaps, like many, you have a financial investment in ensuring it stays alive. Don't be daft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites