marko 956 Posted October 25, 2018 Without Sky Tv we would never have had the play offs, it was a made for television idea because they wanted to keep the interest up for their television audience, they were more important than the fans that go in person or the sports legitimacy. But I have said it with the Elite League in the past, there is nothing to stop a bunch of Peterborough fans getting together to have a very nice trophy made that they could present to the club, they say in sports "the table doesn't lie" well Peterborough did finish top of the table and there is no law which says your not allowed to celebrate that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scoobydoo 2,254 Posted October 25, 2018 Why not have the team who finishes top goes straight into the final and second and third place teams race off for the other final place. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marko 956 Posted October 25, 2018 Like in the Speedway of Nations Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topaz325 1,859 Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Why not have the team who finishes top goes straight into the final and second and third place teams race off for the other final place. This would work if all the fixtures were completed on time Edited October 25, 2018 by topaz325 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyE 822 Posted October 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Why not have the team who finishes top goes straight into the final and second and third place teams race off for the other final place. That is only four meetings in total. The present system gives you six (unless Lakeside and Peterborough are involved). The whole point of the play-offs is to draw in the punters in greater numbers than usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singy13 372 Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, marko said: Without Sky Tv we would never have had the play offs, it was a made for television idea because they wanted to keep the interest up for their television audience, they were more important than the fans that go in person or the sports legitimacy. But I have said it with the Elite League in the past, there is nothing to stop a bunch of Peterborough fans getting together to have a very nice trophy made that they could present to the club, they say in sports "the table doesn't lie" well Peterborough did finish top of the table and there is no law which says your not allowed to celebrate that. St. Helens RLFC topped their RL table with ease and were given the League Leaders Shield....a nice trophy......they never made play off final.....sadly IMO.... Sky rule/ruin this sport too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Lucan 375 Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, TonyE said: That is only four meetings in total. The present system gives you six (unless Lakeside and Peterborough are involved). The whole point of the play-offs is to draw in the punters in greater numbers than usual. But are they TonyE, that's the issue, until promotion's divulge crowd figure's for ordinary league/cup meetings how can you "really" be sure that play offs do actually generate bigger crowd's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyE 822 Posted October 25, 2018 I can't of course but the general feeling from various sources is that they do. Why else would promotions continue them? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted October 25, 2018 42 minutes ago, Lord Lucan said: But are they TonyE, that's the issue, until promotion's divulge crowd figure's for ordinary league/cup meetings how can you "really" be sure that play offs do actually generate bigger crowd's? Easy to see the difference just by the open spaces being less open! Foxhall last year for the cup and play off semis and finals was heaving in comparison to the norm When you have 3500-4000 instead of the normal 1000-1200 its obvious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch958 2,395 Posted October 25, 2018 you can keep the play offs but just ensure the league winners are properly recognised. League champions then have play offs for a shield - Craven/Mauger/Buzz Burrows, anyone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) Why not just run the league as usual until everyone has done their meetings, then,,, pull 4 names out of the hat for the play-offs ? It means that everyone still has a chance, and if you've been blighted by injuries, etc. you might still have a fair chance. Keeps everyone interested until near the end. Edited October 25, 2018 by ruffdiamond Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Lucan 375 Posted October 25, 2018 3 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Easy to see the difference just by the open spaces being less open! Foxhall last year for the cup and play off semis and finals was heaving in comparison to the norm When you have 3500-4000 instead of the normal 1000-1200 its obvious Only if you're there to witness the change it is so really it's just hearsay for everyone else that's why I would want more transparency to actually believe it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,285 Posted October 26, 2018 'Why run the league?' might be a more relevant topic question..... Allied to a follow up of 'Who really cares who wins?'... Given the way the Sport is allowed to be ran, you just can't take any of the the League's seriously, so I wouldn't get too embroiled in whether play offs are a fair way of settling them or not.... It doesn't really matter who wins does it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayleigh 362 Posted October 26, 2018 Who won the league 10 years ago? 5 years ago? 2 years ago? I bet you cant answer that. In short it doesn't matter all that much does it. What does matter is that teams come to the tapes the following season and a few big pay days at the end of the season might just make the difference, so the play offs are a good thing if you think it through. NO FANS NO MONEY NO SPEEDWAY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS50 359 Posted October 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Rayleigh said: Who won the league 10 years ago? 5 years ago? 2 years ago? I bet you cant answer that. In short it doesn't matter all that much does it. What does matter is that teams come to the tapes the following season and a few big pay days at the end of the season might just make the difference, so the play offs are a good thing if you think it through. NO FANS NO MONEY NO SPEEDWAY Only a money spinner for the teams that make the play offs. We want ALL teams back next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites