1 valve 558 Posted April 16, 2019 3 hours ago, BWitcher said: All this Woffy love, there's at least thirty British riders I can name that are better.. At doing what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,102 Posted April 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, 1 valve said: At doing what? Whoooooooosh.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted April 16, 2019 4 hours ago, BWitcher said: All this Woffy love, there's at least thirty British riders I can name that are better.. Very true .all from 25 years ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPNY 608 Posted April 16, 2019 There will be the argument the opposition was tougher back then. Even tho the eastern European boys were essentially riding on old lawn mowers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,102 Posted April 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, orion said: Very true .all from 25 years ago And at least another 30 from the 1970's... Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, chunky said: And at least another 30 from the 1970's... Steve Is he genuinely in the top 50 all time British riders? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bruno 1,790 Posted April 16, 2019 Just about I'd say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,102 Posted April 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, BWitcher said: Is he genuinely in the top 50 all time British riders? Not according to some of the experts on the BSF, apparently... And we haven't even included the 50's and 60's yet!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted April 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, BWitcher said: Is he genuinely in the top 50 all time British riders? No .don't you remember the British Finals of the 70's and 80's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,102 Posted April 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, BWitcher said: Is he genuinely in the top 50 all time British riders? He needs to win at least 10 more World Championships to break into the top 50. Still, it is so easy to win the GP series - but only for Woffinden, and not everybody else... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,102 Posted April 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, orion said: No .don't you remember the British Finals of the 70's and 80's Oh, that's right! You needed an 11-point average to even think about being good enough to qualify for a British Final... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 16, 2019 51 minutes ago, chunky said: Oh, that's right! You needed an 11-point average to even think about being good enough to qualify for a British Final... Oh come on Chunky. You talk some good stuff but averages is silly. Averages and winning races is no way to judge a rider, nor titles for that matter. I'm surprised you're basing your judgement on such things. Even if you did have you ever seen Tai Woffinden win a world title live, in the stadium? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 16, 2019 3 hours ago, 1 valve said: At doing what? Don't get me wrong 1 valve, Tai is good but he hasn't got anyone to beat. So much easier now, just turn up, win, ride round, don't have to win many races, pressure? No, closed shop, rivals not around. In the 70's did you see a rider lose a race before a World Final? So tough the competition, Betts. Look at it, Ashby. Legends. Pusey, warrior. Would he lose a race today, don't think so. Grand Prix, back in the day, wow, Mauger would have won 20+, Olsen too, Collins 10... could you see them losing a race, wow, competition, Les Collins, grand prix, would he get beat, be honest? Carter, be world champ 5 times over in a GP, tough, Sanders! Different class. Joe Owen, different level, Think 1 valve. Were you there? 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byker Biker 472 Posted April 16, 2019 1 hour ago, BWitcher said: Don't get me wrong 1 valve, Tai is good but he hasn't got anyone to beat. So much easier now, just turn up, win, ride round, don't have to win many races, pressure? No, closed shop, rivals not around. In the 70's did you see a rider lose a race before a World Final? So tough the competition, Betts. Look at it, Ashby. Legends. Pusey, warrior. Would he lose a race today, don't think so. Grand Prix, back in the day, wow, Mauger would have won 20+, Olsen too, Collins 10... could you see them losing a race, wow, competition, Les Collins, grand prix, would he get beat, be honest? Carter, be world champ 5 times over in a GP, tough, Sanders! Different class. Joe Owen, different level, Think 1 valve. Were you there? So pleased you're a Woffy fan, he'd be fckued without you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,102 Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, BWitcher said: Even if you did have you ever seen Tai Woffinden win a world title live, in the stadium? Iit's obviously the only way I will get to see it, because I'm not allowed to watch him on the live stream specifically provided for people like me by the organisers... Is it still illegal and immoral if I just have it on in the background??? Steve 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites