Guest Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) Britain has had eight speedway world champions. This is how I rate them: (1) Peter Craven (2) Fred Williams (3) Tommy Price (4) Tai Woffinden (5) Peter Collins (6) Michael Lee (7) Mark Loram (8) Gary Havelock Edited September 29, 2019 by Guest spelling error Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevehone 3,430 Posted September 28, 2019 but have you ever seen Woffinden/Loram/Havelock ride? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted September 28, 2019 50 minutes ago, stevehone said: but have you ever seen Woffinden/Loram/Havelock ride? Probably read their books tho 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,993 Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Star Lady said: Probably read their books tho No,don’t take the mickey. He’s been trying his best in the SE London/ Kent border area to find Tais book without any luck. Though just why an area that hasn’t seen any speedway for 50 years or more if we count Crystal Palace should stock the book is beyond me Edited September 28, 2019 by iris123 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) Who's Jo? Edited September 28, 2019 by Star Lady Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,993 Posted September 28, 2019 Blooming autocorrect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted September 28, 2019 Just now, iris123 said: Blooming autocorrect Ah I get it now Jo lives in Autocorrect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) From the riders I have seen from that list my list would be: 1. Collins 2. Lee 3. Loram. 4. Havelock...of those that I didn't see the one rider I wish I had was Peter Craven. Anybody who could circumnavigate Cowley at 63 secs when the average time during that period was 67 secs had to be someone special. Edited September 28, 2019 by steve roberts 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,993 Posted September 28, 2019 As ‘World’ champ Craven did have some good meetings overseas. Is there any record of Williams or Price doing much outside of England ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, iris123 said: No,don’t take the mickey. He’s been trying his best in the SE London/ Kent border area to find Tais book without any luck. Though just why an area that hasn’t seen any speedway for 50 years or more if we count Crystal Palace should stock the book is beyond me WHS stock sports books by American boxers who have never fought outside the USA. What's the difference in regard to Tai Woffinden's book? Or is this just your usual chance to have a jibe at a comment by me? An action that you sadly appear dedicated to at every opportunity? Edited September 29, 2019 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,097 Posted September 28, 2019 1 hour ago, iris123 said: As ‘World’ champ Craven did have some good meetings overseas. Is there any record of Williams or Price doing much outside of England ? Or indeed, outside of their home track? To put Price ahead of Collins, Lee, and of course, Woffinden, seems a little strange. Three world championships on tracks around the world vs one on your home track? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,097 Posted September 28, 2019 5 hours ago, gustix said: Britain has had eight speedway world champions/Grand Prix winners. You do realise that "Grand Prix Winners" are actually "World Champions"? Besides, if you want to talk about British "Grand Prix Winners", you forgot Martin Dugard and Chris Harris. Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) The list of world champions given as for Grand Prix was taken from Wikipedia who classify the overall winners as Speedway Grand Prix A better classification would seemingly need the word series added to read the details as Speedway Grand Prix Series? Edited September 29, 2019 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,097 Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, gustix said: The list of world champions given as for Grand Prix was taken from Wikipedia who classify the overall winners as Speedway Grand Prix A better classification would seemingly need the word series added to read the details as Speedway Grand Prix Series? Then contact Wikipedia. And the FIM while you are at it... The fact is that, when the record books show "world champions", they are still shown as "world champions" regardless of the format. You are the only one who seems to think they are different... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,993 Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, gustix said: WHS stock sports books by American boxers who have never fought outside the USA. What's the difference in regard to Tai Woffinden's book? Or this just your usual chance to have a jibe at a comment by me? An action that you sadly appear dedicated to at every opportunity? You are mixing up boxing fans with speedway fans. Boxing fans can be spread all over. There are though a number of long standing boxing clubs in SE London.The manager at WH Smith’s might have sold lots of boxing books, so orders more. Without any demand for speedway books they don’t stock any.... that is how business works Generally, but not exclusively speedway fans are situated near a speedway track. No doubt in the days of Wimbledon there might well have been a few fans in the Bromley area, but interest has at a guess waned since those days Edited September 29, 2019 by iris123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites