Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, orion said: Even when I tell you not to reply about it being viable you go and do it .. the point being make is that you keep saying that people don't worry about who is riding what is quite clearly wrong I don't need to ask people who watch Nl or championship I just look at the poor crowds that drop every year as the rider standard does . . one moment you say that someone never go's anymore because the uk is rubbish and then in your next post you say that other people are saying it's great . make your mind up ? No one is on about bringing back top riders back but to keep dropping the standard has clearly not worked and nearly every idea is to do the same again as its been for the last 20 years . Bring them back by all means but how do you pay for them?? when clubs barely get 1000 paying fans everyweek.You have no answer no plan and odviously you have not got a head for business.Mike on the other hand has a plan it looks viable and it could work who knows.Also IF????? you have been to Swindon everyweek is it that bad ?? i for one have praised the promotion on this years racing i have never knocked them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted October 15, 2019 11 hours ago, orion said: So if had Top division polish standard teams you thinks crowds would not go up ? please don't reply with your normal we not got the money because that has nothing to do with the point being made . Your mate is a poor example ..the rider level dropping is why the entertainment level has dropped . what I find so scary about speedway fans is the lack of understanding about the need for decent riders to bring the crowds in . of course most of them are really old and will turn up to watch any old rubbish Do you stick to your very clever observation that most speedway fans are OLD and turn up to watch any old rubbish??? Also what is wrong with being old ? you have a real nerve you are nearly old folks home bound. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris4gillian 1,832 Posted October 15, 2019 12 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: I don’t believe moving back to a Wednesday from a Thursday would make any difference to crowd levels. Not true. I can't make (many) Thursdays due to family commitments, Wednesdays are fine and have always been kept free for Poole Speedway. The change to Thursday meant my attendance dropped significantly as I cannot change my family situation on a Thursday. So there you finally have what you've been craving... my reason for not attending much this year! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,618 Posted October 15, 2019 58 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Bring them back by all means but how do you pay for them?? when clubs barely get 1000 paying fans everyweek.You have no answer no plan and odviously you have not got a head for business.Mike on the other hand has a plan it looks viable and it could work who knows.Also IF????? you have been to Swindon everyweek is it that bad ?? i for one have praised the promotion on this years racing i have never knocked them. Yet again for the 5th time I never said anything about bringing top riders back .. I never seen a business that has the same plan for 20 years meaning that his stores close down one by one and losing customers every year but carries on doing the same . My business head tells me that I need more customers not less Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted October 15, 2019 44 minutes ago, chris4gillian said: Not true. I can't make (many) Thursdays due to family commitments, Wednesdays are fine and have always been kept free for Poole Speedway. The change to Thursday meant my attendance dropped significantly as I cannot change my family situation on a Thursday. So there you finally have what you've been craving... my reason for not attending much this year! I actually think change of race night created a drop in attendance as the main contributor just my opinion though 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,040 Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: I had the flu in 2003. A cold it is not. Man flu it is not. I was laid out for over two weeks in bed and affected for well over a month Totally exhausted before slowly recovering. It is true to say that line that if a 50 pound note had Wafted past my bedroom window I would not have got up to pick it up. It really can be a life threatening illness for the weak and elderly. If a jabs available for free from the doctor don’t hesitate IMO. My mum always says that about not having enough energy to pick up the money! Do you get it as a nasal spray like they do at the schools? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, orion said: Yet again for the 5th time I never said anything about bringing top riders back .. I never seen a business that has the same plan for 20 years meaning that his stores close down one by one and losing customers every year but carries on doing the same . My business head tells me that I need more customers not less But the problem you have is that you have not got an alternative plan to Mike yet you criticise his. Edited October 15, 2019 by Sidney the robin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted October 15, 2019 25 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: My mum always says that about not having enough energy to pick up the money! Do you get it as a nasal spray like they do at the schools? No a jab. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apollo 12 Posted October 15, 2019 I believe Poole should enter into the Championship , continuing in a league which is in free fall through lack of numbers of clubs and riders does not make sense.We need to look after the sport in this country first and foremost. Costs will be cut .. which at this point in Speedway is required. The championship leagues seems a more viable stable option , and I believe promoted right the correct way to go. Commercially it is a more interesting league from a sponsorship viewpoint.The sponsorship can be sold , at a more economical price. More of them at a more viable price..Relying on a large main sponsor whilst good is also as proven not always a good thing, especially in this current economic climate. The club would be able to link to the current crop of sdl/mdl riders and bring riders through the ranks at reserve level. It worked under stewkesbury back in the day, and I feel actually it was more entertaining. Anyway just my thoughts 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted October 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: It is true to say that line that if a 50 pound note had Wafted past my bedroom window I would not have got up to pick it up. Come on, Steve, that’s not saying much. Surely an entrepreneur of your considerable magnitude would never get out of bed for a meagre £50? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,098 Posted October 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, Apollo said: I believe Poole should enter into the Championship , continuing in a league which is in free fall through lack of numbers of clubs and riders does not make sense.We need to look after the sport in this country first and foremost. Costs will be cut .. which at this point in Speedway is required. The championship leagues seems a more viable stable option , and I believe promoted right the correct way to go. Commercially it is a more interesting league from a sponsorship viewpoint.The sponsorship can be sold , at a more economical price. More of them at a more viable price..Relying on a large main sponsor whilst good is also as proven not always a good thing, especially in this current economic climate. The club would be able to link to the current crop of sdl/mdl riders and bring riders through the ranks at reserve level. It worked under stewkesbury back in the day, and I feel actually it was more entertaining. Anyway just my thoughts In my opinion having one league to encompass all clubs in the current premier and Championship would be the best option but I dare say it wouldn't suit the tv companies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted October 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, Apollo said: I believe Poole should enter into the Championship , continuing in a league which is in free fall through lack of numbers of clubs and riders does not make sense.We need to look after the sport in this country first and foremost. Costs will be cut .. which at this point in Speedway is required. The championship leagues seems a more viable stable option , and I believe promoted right the correct way to go. Commercially it is a more interesting league from a sponsorship viewpoint.The sponsorship can be sold , at a more economical price. More of them at a more viable price..Relying on a large main sponsor whilst good is also as proven not always a good thing, especially in this current economic climate. The club would be able to link to the current crop of sdl/mdl riders and bring riders through the ranks at reserve level. It worked under stewkesbury back in the day, and I feel actually it was more entertaining. Anyway just my thoughts excellent post anyway welcome to the forum 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gemini 4,894 Posted October 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: I had the flu in 2003. A cold it is not. Man flu it is not. I was laid out for over two weeks in bed and affected for well over a month Totally exhausted before slowly recovering. It is true to say that line that if a 50 pound note had Wafted past my bedroom window I would not have got up to pick it up. It really can be a life threatening illness for the weak and elderly. If a jabs available for free from the doctor don’t hesitate IMO. Sorry you had this awful experience and if you are happy to have the Flu jab then that's your choice and I would probably change my mind if I had the same happen to me. I am definitely elderly but not weak ~ probably due to the fact I am out every day in the fresh air so don't really come into contact with anyones germs like if I worked in a hospital, school etc. Obviously doctors are going to push people to have the jab as they are being paid by the government but the text reminders I have on my phone are just deleted. Fingers crossed now that I get through another Winter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gemini 4,894 Posted October 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Do you stick to your very clever observation that most speedway fans are OLD and turn up to watch any old rubbish??? Also what is wrong with being old ? Obviously taking over from SCB who was always going on about old people. I'd rather be old than have a mind like his. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted October 15, 2019 31 minutes ago, Gemini said: Obviously taking over from SCB who was always going on about old people. I'd rather be old than have a mind like his. Do you feel any different Gemini mindset wise from say 20 years ago.?? would there be any speedway in the UK without the 40 plus year olds.?? That is the biggest problem we have enticicing a new generation to replace the old one's me included. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites