woofers 467 Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: No no no you miss the point! Using the rules to your advantage is fine if you do gain from it!! Its a bit of a waste of time if you don't! lol 59 minutes ago, sugarray said: Using loopholes isn't cheating. I've seen all team managers try it this last year or so. It's annoying but not cheating. Which is why for some years there has been a call for the rules to be rewritten from scratch, and preferably by an independent body. The constant poorly worded amendments and addendums give rise to loopholes. It’s interesting to see that people think rules are always ‘bad things’ whereas the intention is just to set out the terms and restrictions under which the sport is to be run. The rules aren’t there to punish you, they are (meant to be) there to assist you by setting out what is mandatory and what is allowable. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, sugarray said: Using loopholes isn't cheating. I've seen all team managers try it this last year or so. It's annoying but not cheating. But stopping a fit rider from riding and making another rider pretend to have engine failures is not “loopholes”, it’s CHEATING. The CHEATING Poole Pirates. CL, you’ve been warned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobMcCaffery 2,752 Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, DC2 said: But stopping a fit rider from riding and making another rider pretend to have engine failures is not “loopholes”, it’s CHEATING. The CHEATING Poole Pirates. CL, you’ve been warned. We lived with Ian Thomas's expert shenanigans for years in the second tier. I doubt whether Poole will be anything like their tier 1 version, well at least for a while..... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, RobMcCaffery said: We lived with Ian Thomas's expert shenanigans for years in the second tier. I doubt whether Poole will be anything like their tier 1 version, well at least for a while..... Don’t you bet on it. They’ll be doing it already, signing their team! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, DC2 said: But stopping a fit rider from riding and making another rider pretend to have engine failures is not “loopholes”, it’s CHEATING. The CHEATING Poole Pirates. CL, you’ve been warned. Strange!! I can't quite remember what punishment the Pirates received? Oh but of course, they didn't!! Real Cheating is when a team calls off a meeting due to 'a waterlogged track', when despite photographic evidence to the contrary and the fact they would be missing their number 1 rider was the real reason!! And they got understandably punished for it!! Edited December 12, 2019 by Skidder1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted December 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Strange!! I can't quite remember what punishment the Pirates received? Oh but of course, they didn't!! Real Cheating is when a team calls off a meeting due to 'a waterlogged track', when despite photographic evidence to the contrary and the fact they would be missing their number 1 rider was the real reason!! And they got understandably punished for it!! The fact that Poole were investigated by the BSPA on that occasion and that the allegation was found “unproven” by the closed, smoke filled room of the BSPA, rather than them being declared innocent spoke volumes. We who were there saw what happened, whether the BSPA wished to admit it or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, DC2 said: The fact that Poole were investigated by the BSPA on that occasion and that the allegation was found “unproven” by the closed, smoke filled room of the BSPA, rather than them being declared innocent spoke volumes. We who were there saw what happened, whether the BSPA wished to admit it or not. Ah so just your 'unbiased' opinion then?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted December 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Ah so just your 'unbiased' opinion then?? Yep, just me ... ..oh, and Leigh Adams .... oh, and everyone else who was there and everyone else involved in speedway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottyfan 824 Posted December 12, 2019 Surprised the next signing wasn’t announced at the Stadium last night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arthur54 1,302 Posted December 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Strange!! I can't quite remember what punishment the Pirates received? Oh but of course, they didn't!! Real Cheating is when a team calls off a meeting due to 'a waterlogged track', when despite photographic evidence to the contrary and the fact they would be missing their number 1 rider was the real reason!! And they got understandably punished for it!! Was that the misterious burst water main 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Weasel 306 Posted December 12, 2019 6 hours ago, DC2 said: The fact that Poole were investigated by the BSPA on that occasion and that the allegation was found “unproven” by the closed, smoke filled room of the BSPA, rather than them being declared innocent spoke volumes. We who were there saw what happened, whether the BSPA wished to admit it or not. That was the year the Play Offs were reduced from 6 places back to 4 mid season, shortly after the shenanigans at the Abbey, so not totally unfounded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, The Weasel said: That was the year the Play Offs were reduced from 6 places back to 4 mid season, shortly after the shenanigans at the Abbey, so not totally unfounded. Spot on. A case of we won’t officially find Poole guilty of cheating, we’ll just make sure they can’t win it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted December 13, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 8:40 PM, DC2 said: But stopping a fit rider from riding and making another rider pretend to have engine failures is not “loopholes”, it’s CHEATING. The CHEATING Poole Pirates. CL, you’ve been warned. Cheating is stopping a rider completing all his meetings to keep him at reserve, loophole for some, cheating for others. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted December 13, 2019 Spot on FB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted December 13, 2019 Poole track shop open this weekend - 10.00am til 4.00pm on both Saturday 14th and Sunday 15th. New clothing and merchandise available for Adults and kids - also on line from tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites