BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Is Woentin playing scrabble? d, w, d, t in his last 4 rides. Edited October 2, 2020 by KingoftheTrack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cphx 11 Posted October 2, 2020 anyone know final classification? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,740 Posted October 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, cphx said: anyone know final classification? https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/105356/final-imj-w-pardubicach Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cphx 11 Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, racers and royals said: https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/105356/final-imj-w-pardubicach thats classification by sportowe fakty. so Kvech is 5th? wasnt supposed to be like this years GP classification so excluded is worst than 0 and sf count for classification? Edited October 2, 2020 by cphx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,740 Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, cphx said: thats classification by sportowe fakty. so Kvech is 5th? wasnt supposed to be like this years GP classification so excluded is worst than 0 and sf count for classification? I would think it`s normal scoring , so 3rd and 4ths in the semi`s don`t come into it. you will have to wait for the FIM offical result if you disagree. Edit I`m probably wrong as this is more like what you think it should be http://speedwayu21.com/en/results.html Edited October 2, 2020 by racers and royals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cphx 11 Posted October 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, racers and royals said: I would think it`s normal scoring , so 3rd and 4ths in the semi`s don`t come into it. you will have to wait for the FIM offical result if you disagree. thats important for betting and I havent seen any official classification. and there's nothing on official u21 champs website (it wasnt updated for year, cause there's still another sponsor in rules) and cant find anything on fim.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,740 Posted October 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, cphx said: thats important for betting and I havent seen any official classification. and there's nothing on official u21 champs website (it wasnt updated for year, cause there's still another sponsor in rules) and cant find anything on fim.. Have you seen my edit 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cphx 11 Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, racers and royals said: Have you seen my edit perfect thank you Miskowiak abover Kvech is amazing luck then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tyler42 150 Posted October 3, 2020 It is what it is but, poor Jan Kvech scorers 13pts and will go down in the record books as finishing 5th!! I hate the fact that a rider (Petr Chlupac) Can score 7pts and still have as much chance of winning the meeting as ( Jaimon Lidsey 14pts ) I know it's all about keeping in line with other sports, but personally I will never accept it as a fair system. Just like the senior GP's series. Bartosz Zmarzlik has been head and shoulders above the rest of the riders, yet one bad meeting tonight and it will mean nothing. If thats a fair system I'll eat my hat. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,115 Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, tyler42 said: It is what it is but, poor Jan Kvech scorers 13pts and will go down in the record books as finishing 5th!! I hate the fact that a rider (Petr Chlupac) Can score 7pts and still have as much chance of winning the meeting as ( Jaimon Lidsey 14pts ) I know it's all about keeping in line with other sports, but personally I will never accept it as a fair system. Just like the senior GP's series. Bartosz Zmarzlik has been head and shoulders above the rest of the riders, yet one bad meeting tonight and it will mean nothing. If thats a fair system I'll eat my hat. Again, the old World Final system was just as flawed. You could go the whole Championship without dropping a point, and one ride in the final could cost you everything... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,890 Posted October 3, 2020 6 hours ago, tyler42 said: It is what it is but, poor Jan Kvech scorers 13pts and will go down in the record books as finishing 5th!! I hate the fact that a rider (Petr Chlupac) Can score 7pts and still have as much chance of winning the meeting as ( Jaimon Lidsey 14pts ) I know it's all about keeping in line with other sports, but personally I will never accept it as a fair system. Just like the senior GP's series. Bartosz Zmarzlik has been head and shoulders above the rest of the riders, yet one bad meeting tonight and it will mean nothing. If thats a fair system I'll eat my hat. I’m all for a final at the end of an event. It’s no different than in football beating every team 8-0 in the FA Cup and then losing in the ‘showcase’ final and coming runner up. i think for a one off event like this though, 8 going through to the semi finals is way too much. I much prefer the system of rewarding the top 2 to be seeded straight to the final and then 3-6 in the last chance semi. I also like just having the top 4 go straight to the final. It just means there is interest right until the final heat which adds to the drama and overall entertainment of the meeting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bavarian 768 Posted October 3, 2020 15 hours ago, racers and royals said: I would think it`s normal scoring , so 3rd and 4ths in the semi`s don`t come into it. you will have to wait for the FIM offical result if you disagree. Edit I`m probably wrong as this is more like what you think it should be http://speedwayu21.com/en/results.html 15 hours ago, cphx said: thats classification by sportowe fakty. so Kvech is 5th? wasnt supposed to be like this years GP classification so excluded is worst than 0 and sf count for classification? Yes, Kvech with 13 points is officially placed 8th ! Hansen with 9 points is fifth, Chlupac with 8 points is 6th, and Miskowiak again with 9 points is seventh, ahead of Kvech with 13 points in 8th place! I am really getting fed up with the F.I.M. and their points system changes in this sport. This is a world of confusion! They can't even publish their own results correctly http://speedwayu21.com/en/results.html Fienhage has 5 points (not 6), Levyshyn has 5 points (not 4), since Levishyn finished third in Heat 18 ahead of Finhage How can Fienhage then officially be placed 9th, above Niklas Säyriö in 10th, when Fienhage only has five points, but Sayriö has six ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Bavarian said: How can Fienhage then officially be placed 9th, above Niklas Säyriö in 10th, when Fienhage only has five points, but Sayriö has six ! Because Pavel Ondrasik and Giuseppe Grandi say so. They are the ones that have signed the results after probably 30 minutes of going through them in The jury room... Writing results isnt always easy, but this one was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bavarian 768 Posted October 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, f-s-p said: Because Pavel Ondrasik and Giuseppe Grandi say so. They are the ones that have signed the results after probably 30 minutes of going through them in The jury room... Writing results isnt always easy, but this one was. what a shame then, the wrong result gets officially approved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
customhouseregular 1,651 Posted October 3, 2020 Shambles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites