ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted March 15, 2021 33 minutes ago, leander said: Somebody had to go, otherwise we would have been comfortably under the NDL 35 point limit!!!!!! (in the championship). Don't see why 4* rising stars can't ride in the championship as part of the program. just knock another point off the rest of the team building. Be interesting to see how many are lost when they lose confidence after finding they are out of their depth, like the last time they tried something like this. Yeah, but we were having to replace 2 riders anyway, Skorja and Smetana,,, so maybe the timing of things didn't work out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enotian 562 Posted March 15, 2021 3 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: Yeah, but we were having to replace 2 riders anyway, Skorja and Smetana,,, so maybe the timing of things didn't work out? Agreed. Not just the points points limit or rising star programme to blame. Mountain would still have fitted within the points limit even with Barker in the team. Perhaps the loan fee was prohibitive? Shame as he could have progressed. The Diamonds team would be competitive with him as the Rising Star. Actually surprised he didn't get the rising star spot at Kings Lynn? Surely he'll get a place at Birmingham, Redcar or Scunthorpe?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TotallyHonestJohn 3,078 Posted March 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, enotian said: Agreed. Not just the points points limit or rising star programme to blame. Mountain would still have fitted within the points limit even with Barker in the team. Perhaps the loan fee was prohibitive? Shame as he could have progressed. The Diamonds team would be competitive with him as the Rising Star. Actually surprised he didn't get the rising star spot at Kings Lynn? Surely he'll get a place at Birmingham, Redcar or Scunthorpe?? It was soley down the the Rising Star programme that Conner got cut... it had been stated that he was to be graded as a 3 star then there was a change of tack and the rest as they say is history... Regards THJ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enotian 562 Posted March 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: It was soley down the the Rising Star programme that Conner got cut... it had been stated that he was to be graded as a 3 star then there was a change of tack and the rest as they say is history... Regards THJ There was still a choice though wasn't there. Mountain could have been retained ahead of Roynon or Wright. If, as you suggest, a decision was made assuming Mountain would be the 3* #7 then someone messed up. When that became clear the choice between Mountain, Roynon and Wright could still have been made at that point. Although this doesn't stack up for me given they've then gone for a 1* NDL 2nd string at #7. Admittedly the other 3*'s are nowhere near Mountain standard but if that was the plan and budget then I'd have expected another option at #7. Kinsley for example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted March 16, 2021 6 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: It was soley down the the Rising Star programme that Conner got cut... it had been stated that he was to be graded as a 3 star then there was a change of tack and the rest as they say is history... Regards THJ Ahh,,, its starting to make sense now, even if it doesn't make sense. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skodaman 192 Posted March 16, 2021 20 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: It was soley down the the Rising Star programme that Conner got cut... it had been stated that he was to be graded as a 3 star then there was a change of tack and the rest as they say is history... Regards THJ Surely, he was cut before the Rising Star system was introduced. He was cut because Barker was free due to Somerset not riding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TotallyHonestJohn 3,078 Posted March 16, 2021 On 3/15/2021 at 7:39 PM, ruffdiamond said: Yeah, but we were having to replace 2 riders anyway, Skorja and Smetana,,, so maybe the timing of things didn't work out? 1 hour ago, Skodaman said: Surely, he was cut before the Rising Star system was introduced. He was cut because Barker was free due to Somerset not riding. Nope... as Ruff pointed out earlier in this thread we had two places to fill and Conner was in and part of the team until the Rising Star programme was released... The only reason Conner got cut was down to this ill conceived idea and for no other reason whatsoever... the club didnt want to swap him out for sure... However his loss was a lucky break for Joe Alcock... let's hope Joe can grab it with both hands and he realises his potential... hopefully Dave Tatum has seen something in this kid at Stoke that others have missed... I would be pleased if he can achieve and score his average of 2 each week and if he could increase that by say 50% and end up with an average of 3 would be a fantastic achievement... Maybe wishful thinking again but I hope he can rise to the challenge and more than anything else stay fit and injury free... Regards THJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevehone 3,430 Posted March 17, 2021 was Connor not on the rising star list because his average is too high or did he refuse the conditions and get blackballed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TotallyHonestJohn 3,078 Posted March 17, 2021 Connor is on the Rising Star programme as a 4 star rider because of his average and Championship Clubs can only have a 3 star rising star or less Regards THJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevehone 3,430 Posted March 18, 2021 3 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Connor is on the Rising Star programme as a 4 star rider because of his average and Championship Clubs can only have a 3 star rising star or less Regards THJ thanks for that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Technik 491 Posted March 18, 2021 As Mentioned before I'd like someone to try & tempt JPB & Zach "W" back to the sport. As It stands at present I think either would be able to produce at CL level this season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justgotmecpc 1,059 Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Technik said: As Mentioned before I'd like someone to try & tempt JPB & Zach "W" back to the sport. As It stands at present I think either would be able to produce at CL level this season Keep an eye on the news & the temptation of 1 of them is on the cards to return Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teaboy279 1,038 Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) Sure I ve seen JP (he has dropped the B )mention recently he was looking for a spot Edited March 19, 2021 by teaboy279 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS50 359 Posted March 19, 2021 5 hours ago, teaboy279 said: Sure I ve seen JP (he has dropped the B )mention recently he was looking for a spot I saw something on Speedway Star Facebook page about this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted March 24, 2021 Hopefully those people advocating a return to racing of Bradford, Somerset, Oxford, Swindon (& even Coventry) will have read this thread, and seen the difficulty that they would face in finding another 28, or even 35 riders needed for the "returning" teams to compete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites