Lorenzo558 39 Posted August 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, mikebv said: Considering the score line Leszno have been in better scoring positions in a lot of races.... Lublin have scored a fair few heat wins from losing positions... Will take a very good team to beat them... Maybe Wroclaw if their top four are 100% bang on form? The people setting the odds seems to have more faith in Czestochowa rather than Wroclaw, problably because Czestochowa are the only ones who are able to match up with Lublin when it comes to the u21 riders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,753 Posted August 19, 2022 Pawlicki announced at the end of the meeting tonight that he is leaving Leszno at end of season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,736 Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) We move on to tomorrow`s play-off action Sunday August 21st Torun v Gorzow start time 5pm UK time Eleven Sport 1 Sunday August 21st Wroclaw v Czestochowa start time 7pm UK time Canal + Sport 5 Racecards Torun v Gorzow https://www.stalgorzow.pl/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/program_TORGOR_play-off.pdf?fbclid=IwAR022HZ9hbAbXAEuepWhZTOOisAp1vYI299GSe5ED_GPFsJMpLgee53T4y4 Wroclaw v Czestochowa pages 24 and 25 https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/review?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:83755966-43f5-48d4-af0a-370bb8df6088#pageNum=25 Links( different TV showing) Torun v Gorzow http://kergel.ucoz.lv/ http://www.maniaki.tv/st1 http://www.drhtv.com.pl/drhtv-1.html https://livetvon.click/embed/stream-71.php http://assia24.com/live/mix-sport6/?lang=pl Wroclaw v Czestochowa http://kergel.ucoz.lv/- http://www.maniak.tv/mk7 https://livetvon.click/embed/stream-75.php http://assia24.com/live/mix-sport9/?lang=pl Edited August 21, 2022 by racers and royals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,291 Posted August 21, 2022 Gorzow going to need Bartek to deliver 35 points or so combined over both legs now I would think to have any chance... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topsoil 2,498 Posted August 21, 2022 Do number 1 seed Lublin meet the Lucky Loser in the semis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,736 Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, topsoil said: Do number 1 seed Lublin meet the Lucky Loser in the semis? Not necessarily but possibly- i will repeat again what i have posted more than once - 2 new play-off result mini leagues will be created with the 3 winners in one and the 3 losers in the other - these will be on match points and then race points. best loser (4) goes through to meet no 1 in the winners table and 2 v 3 in the winners table completes the semi`s.(over 2 legs) Edited August 21, 2022 by racers and royals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topsoil 2,498 Posted August 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Not necessarily but possibly- i will repeat again what i have posted more than once - 2 new play-off result mini leagues will be created with the 3 winners in one and the 3 losers in the other - these will be on match points and then race points. best loser (4) goes through to meet no 1 in the winners table and 2 v 3 in the winners table completes the semi`s.(over 2 legs) So there was no incentive to finish top of the table if the number 1 seed in the semis is the team who scores the higheat points on aggregate in the quarters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,736 Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, topsoil said: So there was no incentive to finish top of the table if the number 1 seed in the semis is the team who scores the higheat points on aggregate in the quarters? Exactly right apart from 2 things 1 they met team 6 in the play-off 1st round- the weakest team 2 in the event of a tie in the mini league, finishing position in the regular season finishes higher.which could mean the difference between going forward or not. Edited August 21, 2022 by racers and royals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TTT 1,229 Posted August 21, 2022 When your luck's out it's out. Gorzow's season is basically over now. Czestochowa are the team to watch out for purely because they've got a fully fit 1-7 while other teams are one injury away from becoming a 5 man team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,753 Posted August 21, 2022 2 hours ago, racers and royals said: Not necessarily but possibly- i will repeat again what i have posted more than once - 2 new play-off result mini leagues will be created with the 3 winners in one and the 3 losers in the other - these will be on match points and then race points. best loser (4) goes through to meet no 1 in the winners table and 2 v 3 in the winners table completes the semi`s.(over 2 legs) And the fact that you have to keep repeating it tells you how utterly stupid this play off system is, I thought the poles were beyond this stupidity that British speedway specialise in but clearly not, polish speedway and the Isle of Wight are the only things keeping me a speedway fan at the moment, even the GP has lost something for me, seems it’s just going to be the Isle of Wight at this rate 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topsoil 2,498 Posted August 21, 2022 50 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: And the fact that you have to keep repeating it tells you how utterly stupid this play off system is, I thought the poles were beyond this stupidity that British speedway specialise in but clearly not, polish speedway and the Isle of Wight are the only things keeping me a speedway fan at the moment, even the GP has lost something for me, seems it’s just going to be the Isle of Wight at this rate Isle of wight. Just grasstrack and gimmicks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,753 Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, topsoil said: Isle of wight. Just grasstrack and gimmicks. Bigger crowds than they got for league speedway, totally geared towards the fans experience, 25+ races per meeting for £12 and I’m pretty sure the British upright meeting was 16 speedway bikes as was the 3 team tournament last week featuring national league riders ,you call it gimmicks I call it entertainment Edited August 21, 2022 by THE DEAN MACHINE 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eric i 620 Posted August 21, 2022 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: And the fact that you have to keep repeating it tells you how utterly stupid this play off system is, I thought the poles were beyond this stupidity that British speedway specialise in but clearly not, polish speedway and the Isle of Wight are the only things keeping me a speedway fan at the moment, even the GP has lost something for me, seems it’s just going to be the Isle of Wight at this rate I agree, this is a ridiculous convoluted way of doing the playoffs. Even the BSPA couldn't make this up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,291 Posted August 21, 2022 32 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Bigger crowds than they got for league speedway, totally geared towards the fans experience, 25+ races per meeting for £12 and I’m pretty sure the British upright meeting was 16 speedway bikes as was the 3 team tournament last week featuring national league riders ,you call it gimmicks I call it entertainment But apart from all that... What do the Isle Of Wight offer? League Speedway given the way it is ran has been allowed to become a farce in the UK, so fair play to the IOW for realising that and doing their own thing.. When not held back by having to follow an unfit for purpose operating model, it shows what can be done.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,753 Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, mikebv said: But apart from all that... What do the Isle Of Wight offer? Fantastic food cooked by the promotion at a cheap price Edited August 21, 2022 by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
