Skidder1 7,637 Posted October 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Col said: Has there actually been any indication that whatever Polish authority blocks riders in their league from riding for a certain number of other teams will be lifted? announced today - see seperate thread!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhilTheAce 498 Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, hyderd said: where's Bewley to Oxford come from. Apparently they wanted him if they come up and Bewley was going to accept the deal. Which was big money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBP 66 Posted October 5, 2022 57 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: announced today - see seperate thread!! Interesting that the polish league has announced that thursdays will now be an official race day for any rained off meetings and will take preference on uk meetings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted October 5, 2022 59 minutes ago, DBP said: Interesting that the polish league has announced that thursdays will now be an official race day for any rained off meetings and will take preference on uk meetings Surely doesn't stop a Prem fixture from going ahead using r/r &/or guests depending on who is missing. Is it likely that Prem clubs are going to be inundated with 'top' riders? If so they will likely bankrupt themselves!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col 854 Posted October 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Surely doesn't stop a Prem fixture from going ahead using r/r &/or guests depending on who is missing. Is it likely that Prem clubs are going to be inundated with 'top' riders? If so they will likely bankrupt themselves!! Suspect there will be an agreed limit per team on Ekstraliga riders with a Prem average of above a certain level... And it would be sensible to not sign to riders who ride for the same Ekstraliga team. Surely British Speedway has not agreed to play second fiddle to lower Polish leagues? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racerback 36 Posted October 6, 2022 18 hours ago, Col said: Suspect there will be an agreed limit per team on Ekstraliga riders with a Prem average of above a certain level... And it would be sensible to not sign to riders who ride for the same Ekstraliga team. Surely British Speedway has not agreed to play second fiddle to lower Polish leagues? Let's be honest British speedway signed a deal with an engine manufacturer and that worked well then signed a deal for tyres you can't use at Peterbrough as they fall apart I'm guessing we will be behind Poland under 11,s in the pecking order 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,033 Posted October 8, 2022 On 10/5/2022 at 9:04 AM, ouch said: Don’t forget the British 2.5% reduction. Dan’s average will come down to 8.91 (from 9.14). Robert had his reduced (7.81 to 7.61) when he signed for us. When he rides in the Kings Lynn fixture his rolling average will alter giving him a 2022 average which will then have next seasons 2.5% reduction. Probably end up around 7.40. 32.50 used up on Dan, Robert, Jaimon, Norick and Tom. It’s just a case then of seeing the rules re RS and points limit for the other two. I expect a big reduction in team building limits as this always happens if the Aces finish high, been like that for decades. We certainly won’t see any of the, keep the same team stuff cooked up by the BSPL/BSF cartel in times gone by. Dodgy as. Lambert's 7.81 ave (7.61 with reduction) is based on his last 20 matches. If he rides against Lynn his final ave will then be based on his last 9 matches from 2019 & the Lynn fixture. Could change a lot! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,033 Posted October 8, 2022 On 10/5/2022 at 9:49 AM, PhilTheAce said: I’ve heard all rising stars will get a 25% reduction on there starting average. As anyone else heard same. brennan will start on 4.40 if true When the RS rules were introduced, it was stated when a rider was no longer a "rising star" he would get a 25% reduction on his ave (to help them get a team place after improving enough to no longer qualify). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,407 Posted October 8, 2022 It never happened in the Championship at the start of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tellboy 3,662 Posted October 8, 2022 46 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Lambert's 7.81 ave (7.61 with reduction) is based on his last 20 matches. If he rides against Lynn his final ave will then be based on his last 9 matches from 2019 & the Lynn fixture. Could change a lot! How come Jakobsen's average doesn't change if he misses the Belle Vue match,weren't they rolling averages from 2018? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,033 Posted October 8, 2022 7 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Lambert's 7.81 ave (7.61 with reduction) is based on his last 20 matches. If he rides against Lynn his final ave will then be based on his last 9 matches from 2019 & the Lynn fixture. Could change a lot! 6 hours ago, tellboy said: How come Jakobsen's average doesn't change if he misses the Belle Vue match,weren't they rolling averages from 2018? The rolling aves are from the last 3 seasons, 19,21,22. So anyone with an average from 2018 wouldn't use those figures for a rolling ave, would need to race 3 home & 3 away to gain a new ave. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,033 Posted October 8, 2022 6 hours ago, IronScorpion said: It never happened in the Championship at the start of the season. I suppose that's because no riders moved out if the RS criteria, they just dropped the RS rule (after 1 year of their 5 year plan)! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,285 Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I suppose that's because no riders moved out if the RS criteria, they just dropped the RS rule (after 1 year of their 5 year plan)! Indeed... Those five years flew by didn't they? Edit: In the last 20 years or so we have had circa a century worth of five year plans... Edited October 8, 2022 by mikebv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,643 Posted October 8, 2022 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Indeed... Those five years flew by didn't they? Edit: In the last 20 years or so we have had circa a century worth of five year plans... When the RS was introduced I did an extensive article in the Star examining past schemes to encourage young talent. They came along about once every seven years and apart from the odd vestigial trace all had disappeared within two years. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,407 Posted October 9, 2022 20 hours ago, IronScorpion said: It never happened in the Championship at the start of the season. 14 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I suppose that's because no riders moved out if the RS criteria, they just dropped the RS rule (after 1 year of their 5 year plan)! 13 hours ago, mikebv said: Indeed... Those five years flew by didn't they? Edit: In the last 20 years or so we have had circa a century worth of five year plans... 11 hours ago, arnieg said: When the RS was introduced I did an extensive article in the Star examining past schemes to encourage young talent. They came along about once every seven years and apart from the odd vestigial trace all had disappeared within two years. I would think that a few promoters voted against running the RS system in the Championship after 1 year as a few riders exceeded expectations. In the past, riders that do well 1 year find themselves out of a job the next year because they have that dodgy average(normally between 4 & 6) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
