Gazc 7,179 Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Re the money situation. I know my club is accused and probably guilty of paying more than most and have a 2016 KO cup to show for it. It's no like football where we can go and buy 7 no.1s. we have to fit 7 guys under the same points limit as every other club, and who is considered a snip is all matter of opinion and some (most?) don't work out that way. The way some go on its as if successful businessmen are not welcome in British speedway It gets brought up on a daily basis , and usually by the same posters. Very tiresome. Edited November 5, 2022 by Gazc 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,462 Posted November 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Re the money situation. I know my club is accused and probably guilty of paying more than most and have a 2016 KO cup to show for it. It's no like football where we can go and buy 7 no.1s. we have to fit 7 guys under the same points limit as every other club, and who is considered a snip is all matter of opinion and some (most?) don't work out that way. The way some go on its as if successful businessmen are not welcome in British speedway Irrespective of what ANY Club pay they can only build aTeam to the points limit.it’s been proved a few times Teams on paper don’t mean a lot. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,070 Posted November 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, snapper said: I am guessing Richard has forgotten about winning the KO cup with Glasgow in 2016 Tbf Richard said he hadn't won a league title. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCookie 753 Posted November 5, 2022 Having thought about it a bit more - are the BSPL trying to drive out the double up riders by giving them too many fixtures? It's a problem which needs sorted at some point and this would be one way of going about it. I'm not sure I trust them to be that clever though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc131 366 Posted November 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, iainb said: Business as usual then? Hopefully not but fixtures need running, some1 needs to control the fixture list not cram them in like thus season and let clubs dictate obviously wishful thinking because nothing will change Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,201 Posted November 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, mc131 said: Hopefully not but fixtures need running, some1 needs to control the fixture list not cram them in like thus season and let clubs dictate obviously wishful thinking because nothing will change In a world where meetings can be abandoned for any number of reasons and easily called off based on inaccurate weather forecasts we can't go on trying to accommodate rearranged fixtures. Clubs should not be allowed to call matches of on a whim, only an official independent body should... we are trying to run a credible sport in a professional manner after all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc131 366 Posted November 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, iainb said: In a world where meetings can be abandoned for any number of reasons and easily called off based on inaccurate weather forecasts we can't go on trying to accommodate rearranged fixtures. Clubs should not be allowed to call matches of on a whim, only an official independent body should... we are trying to run a credible sport in a professional manner after all The independent body would work to control it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,201 Posted November 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, mc131 said: Hopefully not but fixtures need running, some1 needs to control the fixture list not cram them in like thus season and let clubs dictate obviously wishful thinking because nothing will change You just can't do that in modern Speedway, it's not just this season, it's every season and it's getting worse with forecast offs... and now they're planning to increase league fixtures! After the season we've just had! It beggars belief! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,462 Posted November 5, 2022 41 minutes ago, JCookie said: Having thought about it a bit more - are the BSPL trying to drive out the double up riders by giving them too many fixtures? It's a problem which needs sorted at some point and this would be one way of going about it. I'm not sure I trust them to be that clever though. The Top riders have already said they can’t make it pay without doubling up so that won’t happen. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cast1rn 478 Posted November 5, 2022 50 minutes ago, Fromafar said: The Top riders have already said they can’t make it pay without doubling up so that won’t happen. This year they got paid for 20 league meetings, 2023 is scheduled for 32 league meetings that’s 12 more pay days?? How many do they need to make it worth while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCookie 753 Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: The Top riders have already said they can’t make it pay without doubling up so that won’t happen. There's nothing stopping them if that's the case. Except for the fact they'll have 32+ meetings to contend with in the Championship alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,462 Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Cast1rn said: This year they got paid for 20 league meetings, 2023 is scheduled for 32 league meetings that’s 12 more pay days?? How many do they need to make it worth while. Don’t know if you are misunderstanding my Post,but they will still want to ride in Premiership and abroad.That will cause the same chaos in fixture list as last season.They rode in a lot more 20 league fixtures last because they were doubling up and riding abroad. Edited November 5, 2022 by Fromafar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,462 Posted November 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, JCookie said: There's nothing stopping them if that's the case. Except for the fact they'll have 32+ meetings to contend with in the Championship alone. That’s what I mean,it will cause chaos if they have 32 Championship fixtures too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCookie 753 Posted November 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Fromafar said: That’s what I mean,it will cause chaos if they have 32 Championship fixtures too. Hopefully let's some of the lesser lights make it pay as they're the ones we need to support. Nothing against them but the likes of Masters do not need the Championship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pirates Of Poole 761 Posted November 5, 2022 Only thing I don’t understand, why don’t he promoters keep the 42.00 current limit? With Leicester going up the likes of Morris, Howarth and Worrall become available and all 3 can’t go to Birmingham to strengthen them? So we have top riders available which could miss out on a champ place due to a low points limit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites