Gorzow GP Saturday 24th June 2023

[chunky 6,096]

Doyle hasn't had a fall or a warning yet...

[norbold 7,116]

10 minutes ago, chunky said:

I was waiting for you to say something, Norman... 

He's the only one I know the age of without having to look it up!

[mikebv 10,290]

3 minutes ago, iainb said:

If he's serious about winning, which up until the last GP, when he was clearly gutted to miss the final, I'm not sure he has been with having the likes of Paco and Ellis in his pit bay. He would probably benefit from having a former Champ in his corner, at times it seems he doesn't realise how good he is and can be. 

You can imagine that the rest of the riders really like Dan...

[chunky 6,096]

9 minutes ago, mikebv said:

In Speedway, as everyone knows, age doesn't really matter...

Bartek could win 10 titles given he won it so young...

Dan needs to get himself "an edge"...

His gating has improved considerably, so he now needs to maximise that by dominating first turns.. 

Even if "not quite there"..

Too many lasts where he needs to deliver some damage limitation..

The race with Lambert was a classic example of not being ruthless enough.. 

Lambert would have done it to him..

You forget one thing. You can get good overnight, but you can't get experience ovenight...

[chunky 6,096]

3 minutes ago, norbold said:

He's the only one I know the age of without having to look it up!

And there I was, thinking you knew everything! 

[chun 175]

need a few more rounds on the clay to sort the men out from the boys.  fed up of these slick polish circuits now

[mikebv 10,290]

1 minute ago, chunky said:

You forget one thing. You can get good overnight, but you can't get experience ovenight...

Doyley seemed to do exactly that...

Dave Norris too was another example who seemed to have a "lightbulb moment" and "suddenly" become a top class rider..

But, riders like that are very, very few far and between, I agree..

Dan has all the talent needed, not sure he has that attitude that means someone needs to get upset with him to win...

Woffy had it, but seems to have lost it, which is quite natural given to stay at that Elite level of any sport for so many years is huge..

But when he had that hunger, he was a very tough, single minded competitor..

Dan needs to find that "edge"..

Even more so given his unique talent..

[JoeW436 597]

Not getting into politics cos I find it seriously boring but from a speedway point of view this series seriously misses Artem and Emil

[frigbo 518]

These GP tracks are an utter borefest...

[iainb 5,018]

3 minutes ago, JoeW436 said:

Not getting into politics cos I find it seriously boring but from a speedway point of view this series seriously misses Artem and Emil

If we had them... we probably wouldn't have had Jack & Dan

Edited June 24, 2023 by iainb

[chun 175]

queue around the curb.  says it all

[mikebv 10,290]

1 minute ago, frigbo said:

These GP tracks are an utter borefest...

Tracks that deliver great racing each week in Poland...

From many of exactly the same riders..

Become crap when the GP team get involved.. 

[JoeW436 597]

2 minutes ago, iainb said:

If we had them... we probably wouldn't have had Jack & Dan

I could reel off 5/6 riders that wouldn’t deserve to be there instead of those two 

[40-38 308]

3 minutes ago, frigbo said:

These GP tracks are an utter borefest...

Ruined this GP being so slick, so many riders who like having a blast and they produce a track like that.

[iainb 5,018]

1 minute ago, JoeW436 said:

I could reel off 5/6 riders that wouldn’t deserve to be there instead of those two 

It's a closed shop though isn't it? Jack & Dan would have to have finished top 3 in the GP challenge to qualify and that's almost a lottery